yguner's antibiotics log

Submitted by yguner on Mon, 2005-10-31 03:57

Hi all,

 

July 2004

I started minocycline 100mgx2 and rifadin 300mgx2 a day.The next day i felt my spinal cord was more heated than the rest of my body.On the 15th day i had 38.5 degree fever and flu like sendromes ,i stayed in the bed for 7 days.This was my first herx reaction.I also had popping ear when i open and close my mouth, just like in the airplane landings.For the next three months i havent had anything else besides popping ear and pain in my foot.


november 2004

I had my second herx reaction which was 15 days long with pain in my kidneys and my urine was like transparant jello.I had abdominal pain as severe as in my kidneys.Because my urine was like a jello i kept checking my urine visually in a plastic bottle.Every two or three days the bottom of plastic bottle was getting dark which never happened before i used antibiotics.


December 2004

I switched to INH 100mg.x1 rifadin 300mgx2 metronidazol 500mgx2 a day without pulses which clears the infected immune cells from the body.For the next three months i kept taking this combination without any side effects,i had mild abdominal pain,tingling in my feet and burning sensation of my spinal cord.The bottom of the plastic bottle was dark red after i switch to this combination.



March 2005

I had the hardest herx reaction for 45 days,i lost nearly 20 kg. my brother and mother was worrying about me ,they tought i was going to die.They scared me too then i took cortisone (prednisone) to surpress my immune system which ended my herx reaction the next day.End of march i swithed to the combination of doxy and rifadin with pulses of metronidazol.


April 2005

I had severe joint pain in my knees and my hips and severe pain in my feet.I also started having swelling in both my legs and feet.


June 2005

Swelling is all gone now but a horrible pain started in my lover spinal cord which sometimes makes me moan.

 

October 2005

This is my update for october 2005.I just finished my flaggy pulse yesterday and i didn't have any bad reactions like i used to have.The pain in my spinal cord is getting less everyday,muscle spasms are getting milder also.I started to take NAC last week but i had to stop taking it because of increased pain and spasms due to its inflammatory effects.My body temp. stayed in normal range during october.
My energy level is better than before (just a little bit) and my ms symptoms are still same as an improvement.
I will start to take NAC to see what it is going to do without the flaggy.
Thats all for now.

Guner

Hi folks,


I forgot to report in my previous posts that a rash has developed behind my left leg, right in the middle of my knee and hip three months ago.I googled Erythema Migrans rash pictures and found it similar to mine.
I had a lyme test back in 1993 which was negative.I thought i didnt have lyme bacteria since then, but this rash stays there for three months which gets smaller one day bigger and painfull the next day, indicates that i have lyme bacteria too.
Could this rash be a sign of something else?Any ideas?

Guner

On CAP's protocol for Cpn in PPMS since June 2004 - Currently: Doxy 100mgx2/day - Roxy 150mgx2/day - Flagyl 500mgx3/day (Continuous protocol since sept.2006)

During the past 20 years in western medicine, marihuana has been assigned antibiotic activity; as a result, several studies relating to this possibility have been undertaken. H. B. M. Murphy (1963: 20) reported investigations in Eastern Europe. He stated that "it is alleged to be active against gram positive organisms at 1/100,000 dilution, but to be largely inactivated by plasma, so that prospects for its use appear to be, confined to E. N. T. (ear, nose and throat) and skin infections."

Dr. J. Kabelikovi (1952: 500-503) and his coworkers carried out tests on rats, which were similar to tests carried out with penicillin in vitro. The alcohol extract of cannabis was bacterially effective against many gram-positive and one gram-negative microorganisms. It was also found that a paste form of external application was successful. According to Kabelikovi, "from a study of 2,000 herbs by Czechoslovakian scientists it was found that cannabis indica (the Indian Hemp) was the most promising in the realm of antibiotics."

In a 1959 publication of Pharmacie, Krejci stated: "From the flowering tips and leaves of hemp, cannabis sativa var indica bred in Middle Europe, were extracted a phenol and an acid fraction. From the acid fraction, two acids were obtained, of which one preserved its antibiotic properties" (p. 349). In another Czechoslovakian publication, Krejci (1961: 1351-1353) referred to two additional samples with antibiotic activity.

Sample I in Fig. 1 has been sufficiently identified as cannabidiolic acid and sample 9 as cannabidiol. Both fractions show antibiotic activity. The results of tests lead us to conclude that the antibacterial action of cannabis sativa is not identical to the hashish effect found, for example, in tetrahydrocannabinol. However, it was established that cannabis sativa is effective as an antibiotic for local infections.

Kabelik, Krejci, and Santavy (1960: 13) include in "Cannabis as a Medicant" the various microorganisms against which cannabis is effective.

Proof could be furnished that the cannabis extracts produce a very satisfactory antibacterial effect upon the following microbes: staphylococcus pyogenes aureus, steptococcus alpha haemolyticus, streptococcus beta haemolyticus, enterococcus, diplococcus pneumonia, B. anthracis, and corynebacterium diptheriae i.e., all of them gram-positive microorganisms. Noteworthy is the effect upon staphylococcus aureaus strains, which are resistant to penicillin and to other antibiotics.

These authors also mentioned that E. coli (gramnegative bacteria) were tested and found to be resistant to the cannabis extract. One of the conclusions was "the possibility of utilizing the antibiotics locally without any danger of producing resistant strains to other antibiotics administered at the same time throughout treatment" (Kabelik, et al., 1960: 13).

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_medical_info3.shtml

On CAP's protocol for Cpn in PPMS since June 2004 - Currently: Doxy 100mgx2/day - Roxy 150mgx2/day - Flagyl 500mgx3/day (Continuous protocol since sept.2006)

Things change so quickly here now that I completely forgot to comment about your previous post above the cannabis one.  I would have thought that you would have developed the rash closer to the initial infection, so what immediately came to mind was that if it is erythema migrans, did you contract a new infection while you were away over the summer?  Unlikely since you were already taking the abx.  So perhaps it is just one of the funny things that happen to people during treatment, like the blotchy rash I got around my ankles for a while, or the fact that my right hand became very red for a while. This redness changed from day to day then gradually faded away.  Has the rash gone now?........Sarah
Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Hi Sarah.

 The rash has gotten very small but it still insists to be there.I remembered i had similar rash 2 years before i was diagnosed with ms when i was in California.That time i didn't know it could be a sign of an infection so i didn't show it to a dr.Anyway i am not worrying about it because abx combination works for both cpn and lyme.

Guner

On CAP's protocol for Cpn in PPMS since June 2004 - Currently: Doxy 100mgx2/day - Roxy 150mgx2/day - Flagyl 500mgx3/day (Continuous protocol since sept.2006)

Hi all,


Here is my update before exciting year 2006.I should start with what abx combination and vitamins i take at the moment.

Doxycycline 100mg x 2 daily
Roxithromycin 150mg x 2 daily
Amoxicillin 500mg x 1 daily
Flagyl 500mg x 2 daily 5 day pulse (I don't take Amoxicillin when pulsing Flagyl)

vitamin c 1000mg daily
milk thistle daily
omega 3 daily
COQ10 daily
Vitamin b 1,b 6 daily
vitamin b 12 by injection x 3 a week


I started to take Amoxicillin 2 months ago because of the rash behind my left leg and realized it really helped.The rash has never bothered me since then, i still have the rash but it is very small and not painful.
The activity (tingling,burning,itching) in my spinal cord is still there ,it was in its peak level last week.
I sometimes have sweating in my lower back area.And recently my feet start to change skin, it looks like moons surface on my feet,dry and old skin peels out by time but it only happens below my ankle esspecially under my feet.One other thing is i have a dilation of the superficial vein on my left leg.

I wish a happy new year and healty 2006 for everybody.

Guner

On CAP's protocol for Cpn in PPMS since June 2004 - Currently: Doxy 100mgx2/day - Roxy 150mgx2/day - Flagyl 500mgx3/day (Continuous protocol since sept.2006)

Today i am starting my 5day flagyl pulse and am thinking to take 3 pills of 500mg.Flagyl instead of two pills.It is going to be the highest dosage i used until now.I felt no difference when i was pulsing Flagyl last month,i tought it would be better to see if my body tolarates as well as last pulse and help to kill more cpn bacteria.I will update soon..........

On CAP's protocol for Cpn in PPMS since June 2004 - Currently: Doxy 100mgx2/day - Roxy 150mgx2/day - Flagyl 500mgx3/day (Continuous protocol since sept.2006)

Good luck on this. 1500mg per day is considered the full dose on the pulse. It's great to know you are at the point where you are doing everything you can to kill this thing. 

On Wheldon/Stratton protocol for Cpn in CFS/FMS since December 2004.

 

CAP for Cpn 11/04. Dx: 25+yrs CFS & FMS. Currently: 250 aithromycin mwf, doxycycline 100mg BID, restarted Tini pulses; Vit D2000 units, T4 & T3, 6mg Iodoral

To My Hero

You are truly amazing.  You mention the sweating.  In the first 13 or 14 pulses for me I did that like a river. especially my upper body.  Even with the high humidity, it had never been like that before Flagyl.  It is not notucable now.  It was somehow subjective and not related to the weather because it happened last winter too.  I think there are a bunch or us who waited till Jan. to "do Flagyl"  Marie R.,  CureOrBust, you, and me.  We are definitely in this together!  I still worry about your keeping your body flexible; my arm requires a lot of painful work many times a day.

 Rica

Ignorance is voluntary bad luck.  Lauritz S.   A true Viking

If you come to a fork in the road, take it. Yogi Berra

3/9 Symptoms returning. Began 5 abx protocol 5/9 Rifampin 600, Amox 1000, Doxy 200, MWF Azith 250, flagyl 1000 daily. Began Sept 04 PPMS EDSS 6.7 Now good days EDSS 1 Mind, like parachute, work only when open. Charlie Chan  In for the duration.&am

Thank you Jimk and Katman,you've elevated my morale with your posts.

On CAP's protocol for Cpn in PPMS since June 2004 - Currently: Doxy 100mgx2/day - Roxy 150mgx2/day - Flagyl 500mgx3/day (Continuous protocol since sept.2006)

 

I completed my Flagyl pulse today and felt no difference with 1500mg.per day dosage. 

 

started abx on 06-06-2004

On CAP's protocol for Cpn in PPMS since June 2004 - Currently: Doxy 100mgx2/day - Roxy 150mgx2/day - Flagyl 500mgx3/day (Continuous protocol since sept.2006)

That's great news. You caught this thing early. Don't be surprised if you get some reactions in the week or so after a flaggyl pulse. My last pulse was very easy, not symptom free as yours but very minimal symptoms compared to earlier pulses. But around day 3 after stopping I got an fairly significant reaction. David Wheldon reports this as a common thing after flagyl pulses. He think's it's a sign of macrophages, now freed of Cpn stealing their energy, being able to function and so we get a real immune cytokine reaction from improved immune system!

On Wheldon/Stratton protocol for Cpn in CFS/FMS since December 2004.

 

CAP for Cpn 11/04. Dx: 25+yrs CFS & FMS. Currently: 250 aithromycin mwf, doxycycline 100mg BID, restarted Tini pulses; Vit D2000 units, T4 & T3, 6mg Iodoral

Thank you Jimk,i will report if i get any reactions in a week or so. 

started abx on 06-06-2004

On CAP's protocol for Cpn in PPMS since June 2004 - Currently: Doxy 100mgx2/day - Roxy 150mgx2/day - Flagyl 500mgx3/day (Continuous protocol since sept.2006)

Guner, that's great!  Up to the top dosage and nothing bad.  Wonderful!!  You must tell us what good 'tingles' this pulse brings you. 

The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems.  Mohandas Gandhi

The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems. Mohandas Gandhi