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Lala
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Vitamin D can heal tuberculosis?

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Interesting article by Dr. James Howenstine, MD- about tuberculosis treatment with 10000iu of vitamin D daily over 9 months.
All the patients made complete recoveries.
http://newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james69.htm

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The only problem is, when you look up the study he references, you find that:

  • The proper citation is "Acta Med Indones. 2006 Jan-Mar;38(1):3-5", not "Acta Med Indos. Jan-Mar 2006;36(1):3-5".
  • It was 67 patients, not 70.
  • Half of them were in the placebo group, so only 34 were on vitamin D.
  • They were all receiving conventional anti-TB therapy at the same time.
  • The criterion for success was "sputum conversion" (which I think means no longer coughing up TB germs), not "complete recovery". Even the people who achieved "sputum conversion" still had some nasty-looking lung X-rays.
  • The placebo group mostly succeeded too: at six weeks, where the vitamin D group had 100% sputum conversion, the placebo group had 76.7% sputum conversion (due, of course, to the conventional therapy that both they and the vitamin D group were on). Of the eight remaining patients, seven succeeded by the eighth week of therapy, and the remaining one succeeded at 12 weeks.

In sum, the result of the study is best described as "Vitamin D helps a bit", not as "Oh my god, it's a miracle cure". Oh, and that "Dr. Howenstine" website should never be trusted on anything ever again.

Ha, I did not look up his references, which was an obvious mistake. Thanks for investigating it.

Stratton/Wheldon protocol 02/2006 - 10/11 for CFS and many problems 30 years

  I agree with Norman that VitD is not  miracolous and ıt may only help a bit. You certainly can not treat or eradicate CPN with VitD only. Infact it may still be imposible for most of us to eradicate a chronic CPN infection with VitD+antibiotic protocols. There are many people here taking lots of antibiotic together with VitD for years and still carrying those bugs in their bodies.  yılmaz

KEREM'S TAKECARER;Suspıcıon of MS (transient nystagmus during conjugated gaze on february 2008, blepharospazms and some optic complaints on february 2009-no plaque on MRI), Vit D3 started 400 IU and elevated to 2000 ıu ın 40 days.

Kerem, you can not know. There are no data about vitamin D and cpn eradication. Do not forget, that author of heliotherapy won a Nobel prize for it. Certainly many people survived tuberculosis due to this discovery.
I have never claimed that cpn can be treated only by vitamin D. I myself am on high dose D along with CAP and I do not know how "many people here are taking lots of antibiotic together with VitD for years". I suppose not so many, certainly not many enought long with sufficient high dose to say clear results. High dose D topic is much newer than CAPs.

Stratton/Wheldon protocol 02/2006 - 10/11 for CFS and many problems 30 years

 Lala, as far as I know, most of the people in this site takes VitD in relatively high doses, They all take antibiotics also. We know that Rica relapsed after years of antibiotics+vit D, obviously showing that she couldn't eradicate.  Paul forinstance, says that he is the first patient of Dr.Stratton which means he is on antibiotics for more than 10 years with no eradication. So these infections(CPN,LYME..) are really very very stubborn and so difficult to eradicate if not impossible. Even VitD could be helpfull during this eradication trials I don't believe it could eradicate by itself.  yılmaz

KEREM'S TAKECARER;Suspıcıon of MS (transient nystagmus during conjugated gaze on february 2008, blepharospazms and some optic complaints on february 2009-no plaque on MRI), Vit D3 started 400 IU and elevated to 2000 ıu ın 40 days.

What happened to me is what will happen to many of us who don't really finish.  Whan I did the "final test", I had run out of Azithromycin and instead took Bicillin, along with Doxy and flagyl.  I seemed to feel really well, and was able to take flagyl without being knocked over.  I believe what was going on was that the flagyl simply wasn't killing anything because apparently the Bicillin (I think) doesn't work nearly as well as Azith.After two wonderful moinths, little things began happening - it was our busy time of the year and I thought I was tired and overworked, but by the middle of May, it was very obvious.  Then Richard called Dr S and I began Amoxicillin, Azith, Doxy, Rifampin, and flagyl.  I was flattened from day one and now, after eleven months, am coming out of it.    So now, I am doing the REAL final test, with all the real drugs.  For those of us with very deep, very old infection (for me, over fifty years), this will be what we have to do, I bet.  In a few more months I think we will know.  Every day, I tolerate all this better.  My improvements are really amazing and my level of function is higher than it has been for eight years.  I remember specifically because in 2002 I could't walk around the ring at the Nationals and was stumbling a lot.  Rica

3/9 Symptoms returning. Began 5 abx protocol 5/9 Rifampin 600, Amox 1000, Doxy 200, MWF Azith 250, flagyl 1000 daily. Began Sept 04 PPMS EDSS 6.7 Now good days EDSS 1 Mind, like parachute, work only when open. Charlie Chan  In for the duration.&am

I found out recently that Vitamin D is part of the standard cocktail of treatment for tb in the UK. Guess the dosage they use? 400 IU !!!

Hunter: Don't think - experiment

Garcia, I guess we might say that is better than none?

  • CAP(TiniOnly): 06/07-02/09 for CFS
  • MethylationProtocolSupplements: Started08/08
  • Intermtnt CAP: 02/09-02/10
  • Full MethylProtocol & LDN 02/09
  • Off CAP: 02/10, cont LDN & MethlyProtocol support