Something Viral or different NAC?

Submitted by jeanneroz on Fri, 2008-10-24 10:35

For the past week I have been struggling with what appears to feel like a chest cold (or those  CPN elementary bodies are reactivated?)  This is such a strange feeling, in that, even though I have been "sick" with all the repercussions of the protocol, I haven't had anything like a cold, flu, or viral type illness since being on CAP.  I have been running a low grade fever, coughing and feeling very flu-like.  Considering I don't get out of the house much, if it is viral my husband probably brought it home.

I am 24 days post pulse...  the only thing I have done differently over the past month is change the brand of my NAC.  I have been using, for 1.5 years, a brand that is compounded for my local health store (it really smells, but I felt it worked fine) When I ran out I order some Jarrow Formulas N-A-C sustain... and have been taking that.  Could this be a delayed reaction to the NAC since it is "time-released" or just a coincidence?

Even for as sick as I have been off and on over the past year or so, I forgot how "yucky" it is to have feel like you have a chest cold, LOL!

 

JeanneRoz

UPDATE: November 9, 2008

Well, it obviously wasn't the NAC, as I have spent the last week in bed with a severe chest cold/flu, whatever.  I feel as sick as I did when I first became ill.  Not much I could do except ride it out... Doc advised to take Azith for 7 days.. am on day 5.  Yesterday I was able to be out of bed but my chest does hurt and I have been having that deep chest coughing... no phlegm though.  Wow, how did I get sick when I very seldom  leave the house!

I am REALLY getting tired of being non-functional.... :(

 

Jeanne, it is a distinct possibility that it is that you have a much purer and potent brand of NAC. I changed to a better brand recently and got the NAC flue all over again. My health food store lady got me using a brand that was known to be far more reliable and pure. I sneezed and snuffled for several days until I adjusted to the better brand.

Lived with MS since 1991. Completed 16 months of full CAP plus supplements. Currently in full remission. Not on any antiobiotics anymore but taking all supplements incl NAC.

Hi, Todybear.... this is totally different than NAC flu... if anything, I am thinking the "new" NAC is less potent and that perhaps the replicating EB's got ahead again... hmm is that possible after a year and a half?

I'd be curious to know the brand of NAC that was recommended to you :)

Jeanneroz

JeanneRoz ~ DX'd w/ CPN 4/2007; 6/07 -"officially" dx'd w/CFIDS/FM; also: HHV6, EBV, IBS-C, 100 Doxy:BID; 500 mg Biaxin BID; Tindamax Pulses, B12 shots, ERFA Dessicated Thyroid,Cortef, Iodoral 25 mg, Vit D-6,000 uni

I am in Canada, don't know where you hang your hat so don't know if you have the same brands. I was using NOW brand from another store but am now using a brand called Organika. My new supplier said that she has trusted Organika's quality for years and it is Canadian made as well; she won't even sell NOW brand. She doesn't like it for whatever reason. The new NAC is even a tiny bit cheaper per mg if you break the price down but that could also be a difference in markup between the stores.

Lived with MS since 1991. Completed 16 months of full CAP plus supplements. Currently in full remission. Not on any antiobiotics anymore but taking all supplements incl NAC.

Ahh, thanks Todybear... it's obtainable via the Net... I just googled it :)

Thanks!

JeanneRoz

JeanneRoz ~ DX'd w/ CPN 4/2007; 6/07 -"officially" dx'd w/CFIDS/FM; also: HHV6, EBV, IBS-C, 100 Doxy:BID; 500 mg Biaxin BID; Tindamax Pulses, B12 shots, ERFA Dessicated Thyroid,Cortef, Iodoral 25 mg, Vit D-6,000 uni

JeanneRoz, It could be something as simple as the packaging on some food brought into the house, or a borrowed book... at least you know you were sick, rather than wondering. I remember, the first time I took sick after being on abx for a year and a half, I was really taken aback. I'd gotten spoiled, never catching a cold or flu, and I was LIKING it.

Well, I'm glad you're getting over yours; being sick into the holidays is no fun. Image removed. 

The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems. Mohandas Gandhi

Mack.. what's a holiday? Haven't really been able to celebrate one for almost 2 years! LOL

JeanneRoz ~ DX'd w/ CPN 4/2007; 6/07 -"officially" dx'd w/CFIDS/FM; also: HHV6, EBV, IBS-C, 100 Doxy:BID; 500 mg Biaxin BID; Tindamax Pulses, B12 shots, ERFA Dessicated Thyroid,Cortef, Iodoral 25 mg, Vit D-6,000 uni

Or you could just be sick. Image removed.

I remember how bummed I was the first time I got sick after being on CAP for a year and a half. I had no idea at first what was happening, since I'd gotten used to not catching colds or flu and I was liking it.  A LOT.  So, while I was weirded out at having congestion and sinus drip, fever and body aches, I was ultimately gratified at how fast I recovered compared to the people at work who caught the same thing I had.

I've only been sick one more time (that makes only twice in three years, which is amazing), which was last month.  Recovery wasn't so fast this time, but my body fought a hard fight - and won - to keep the cold from developing fully and taking hold in my lungs.  Again, everyone at work is ill, many at home, yet I never got as sick or had it as long.  VAST improvement.

As time goes on, you'll be able to differentiate between 'sick' and SICK, like you used to be, and you'll probably be grateful like I am when you catch a cold and it's no longer an issue in the grand scheme of your life.

The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems. Mohandas Gandhi

Jeanne, you might try adding 3 garlic caps to the mix. I had some nasty respiratory bug (took 2 weeks to get rid of it) and what kicked the lung congestion was garlic. I also take Olive Leaf Extract too when I need it but I think it was the garlic this time. Raven

Feeling 98% well-going for 100. Very low test for Cpn. CAP since 8-05 for Cpn/Mycoplasma P.,Lyme, Bartonella, Mold exposure,NAC,BHRT, MethyB12 FIR Sauna. 1-18-11 begin new treatment plan with naturopath

Thanks Raven... I'll give it a try.  I used to take garlic every day...I just happen to have a bottle :)

JeanneRoz ~ DX'd w/ CPN 4/2007; 6/07 -"officially" dx'd w/CFIDS/FM; also: HHV6, EBV, IBS-C, 100 Doxy:BID; 500 mg Biaxin BID; Tindamax Pulses, B12 shots, ERFA Dessicated Thyroid,Cortef, Iodoral 25 mg, Vit D-6,000 uni

Jeanne, I know how you feel I have been laid low with a chest infection too.... Just recovering now but it certainly makes you feel awful and weak.

I've been given a 7 day course of amoxicillin to make sure that a secondary bacterial infection does not take hold.

Still coughing but not much phlegm either.  

Michèle (UK) GFA: Wheldon CAP 1st May 2006. Daily Doxy, Azi MWF, metro pulse.

Reading this post makes me wonder if feeling good for a while then i feel worse like chilly and weak and so on without any real reason (no pulse or changes in CAP) then it comes probably from a virus. (cold, flu, whatever...). Someone is always sick around me, at least one person so there is always a chance to get it once in a while :))) Also i was wonderig if we get common viral infections such as cold, flu...etc. Do you think it makes Porphyria and/or original CPN symptoms worse? What do you think?
doxy200, azith250, NAC 2400, Metro 1250(once a month), supplements, vitamins.

sorry to hear about your cold flu Sunshine.

speaking of sunshine, once we start getting less of it the nasty viruses can grab hold of us.  coincidence...I think not!  ;o)  wash, wash, wash our hands lots.  Iknow they can get dry in this wintery season, but it helps killing.

Garlic was suggested, I do take it all the time as it is on our list of recommended.  My husband had the flu & one of my friends.  I am touching wood, so far so good.  With all of the supplements, increased D & above, hopefully, I will not get it.

I hauled out the "happy light" today, gloomy & our first snow has arrived.  This could be considered late by some.  I am in alot of pain, here we goooo again!!!  Looking forward to AZ! weeeeeeeeeee less pain, more energy

peace

you are in my prayers! ysic

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CFIDS/ME, FMS, MCS, IBS, EBV, CMV, Cpn, H1, chronic insomnia, Chronic Lyme, HME, Babesia, Natural HRT-menopause, NAC 2.4 gm,Full CAP 6-2-07, all supplements+Iodorol, Inositol-depression, ultra Chitosan, L lysine Pulse#27 04-19-10 1gm Flagyl/day-5 days<

Hi Jeanne,

Yep, it's cold and flu season.  I have a friend in TX that barely leaves the house.  Her and her mom (92 yrs old) both came down with some sort of bug.  Both of these women are nearly housebound but they do have food and other germ carriers come to their home.  

They've both been sick with extremely low grade fevers for nearly two months.  There's nothing they can do but ride it out.  

My dad also developed pneumonia.  I only talk to mom via the internet.  I don't think I can catch it that way as long as I have virus protection on my pc.  Image removed. (ok, that was a really bad joke, wasn't it?)  

NAC 2.4g, Zith 250mg/MWF, mino 200mg, Tini 5day/1g/5 pulses, Valcyte
Supplements, CFIDS/FMS, Hashimoto's, Psoriasis, PA, IBS, Sec Addisons

Don't believe everything you think!  

I thought your joke was  was funny Image removed.

JeanneRoz ~ DX'd w/ CPN 4/2007; 6/07 -"officially" dx'd w/CFIDS/FM; also: HHV6, EBV, IBS-C, 100 Doxy:BID; 500 mg Biaxin BID; Tindamax Pulses, B12 shots, ERFA Dessicated Thyroid,Cortef, Iodoral 25 mg, Vit D-6,000 uni

Actually, I would need bacterial infection.  Do they make that for pc's too?  Image removed.

NAC 2.4g, Zith 250mg/MWF, mino 200mg, Tini 5day/1g/5 pulses, Valcyte
Supplements, CFIDS/FMS, Hashimoto's, Psoriasis, PA, IBS, Sec Addisons

Don't believe everything you think!  

Please help me to find out what is mine!!!!! I'm extremly tired for 3 days now, feeling chilly and fever and really feel like dying sick. However i dont have real fever and NO real flu syptoms(NOR running nose, sore throat or caugh...) but its defenitely more than CPN and not the CAP i think since i have not changed anything for a long time and last pulse was 2 months ago. I am wondering if its a viral problem or as the medication script says also it can cause this as side effect. I am worried and dont know which one of that :(((

whenever i take any of my ABX it makes me feel really worse and chilly. so  really dont know.

doxy200, azith250, NAC 2400, Metro 1250(once a month), supplements, vitamins.

Viktor,

What you are experiencing sounds like die off if you read Reactions and Remedies.  Some sounds like it may need to treated as Secondary Porphyria and die off symptoms as well. 

NAC 2.4g, Zith 250mg/MWF, mino 200mg, Tini 5day/1g/5 pulses, Valcyte
Supplements, CFIDS/FMS, Hashimoto's, Psoriasis, PA, IBS, Sec Addisons

Don't believe everything you think!