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Submitted by Jim K on Sun, 2005-09-11 12:38

Although focused on respiratory disease, this slide show provides and excellent summary of Cpn in general, and why combination antibiotic therapy is so important.

Click This Link for a powerpoint presentation by Charles Stratton on Cpn.

It includes great pictures of the organism at different life phases, and links Cpn various diseases.

Download a .pdf file of the slide show, thanks to Red (!) CLICK HERE

Comments

Good presentation,
thank you Jim!
I have one question: if telithromycin is so good as it seems from slide 9 why is not used currently? and is not in the protocol? Thanks for answers.

Nino: French Riviera, Cpn pneumonia june05 (misdiagnosed). Self diagnosed-treated. Sept.06 found doctor who confirmed Cpn, prescribed Zit 500mg every sec.day.I added NAC, supplements, metron.pulses, 200mg Doxi.

Nino: French Riviera, Cpn pneumonia june05 (misdiagnosed). IgG 1:1024. Mino 100mg bid, Zith 250mg every other day, NAC 2.4g, Metro 500mg bid pulses.

Hi Nino, from what I have just read it is approved for acute infections however in a long term application like Persistent CPn it has been know to be liver toxic, we definitely need to avoid that.Below is a quote from the info that I found: The updated label includes a boxed warning and a contraindication stating that no one with myasthenia gravis should take Ketek (brand name,telithromycin is the generic name of the drug) .  In addition, warnings were strengthened for hepatotoxicity (liver injury), loss of consciousness, and visual disturbances. We need to stick closely to the Wheldon CAP  as it has been designed to take many of these sorts of potential problems into consideration and uses abx with higher safety records.Happy Holidays to you,   Louise  CFS/ME.  CPn posititve, Bb positive. Started CAP 6/24/07 Doxy & NAC 11/3/07 Macrolide 150mgBID added to Doxy100mgBID,NAC600mgBID 11/22/07 #1 Tini Full pulse 500mg BID 11/26/07Cholestyramine HS for porphoria/Lipo Endotoxin sxs x 1 week after pulses.

  • CAP(TiniOnly): 06/07-02/09 for CFS
  • MethylationProtocolSupplements: Started08/08
  • Intermtnt CAP: 02/09-02/10
  • Full MethylProtocol & LDN 02/09
  • Off CAP: 02/10, cont LDN & MethlyProtocol support

Very clear and succinct, wow!  I "just know" I've had CPN infection (intermittently) for years and years .....p.s. one question  ...... the last page, P.28 - he implicates CPN in a number of illnesses, including asthma - but doesn't mention ME/CFS.  Isn't that originally what he did his studies in?!!Blackfoot M.E./CFS 20 years, intermittent.  Wheldon Protocol - Started NAC and supplements Sept 2007. Doxy and Roxy full dose by Dec '07.

M.E./CFS 20 years, intermittent.  Wheldon Protocol - Started NAC and supplements Sept 2007. Doxy and Roxy full dose by Dec '07.  First Flagyl pulse January 2008.  Changed to Tini in December 2008.  Stopped CAP in February 2009 at pulse 16.

Good question Blackfoot was wondering the same   Dx Cpn & Lymes, CFS/Fibro symptomsCAP Sept 07 4000mg Penicillin V daily, 250mg MWF Azithromycin, 5 doses of       12mg Ivermectin             Dec 07 2400mg NAC daily, 250mg MWF Azithromycin, 200mg Doxycycline            

Dx Cpn & Lymes, CFS/Fibro symptomsCAP Sept 07 4000mg Penicillin V daily, 250mg MWF Azithromycin, 5 doses of       12mg Ivermectin             Dec 07 2400mg NAC daily, 250mg MWF Azithromycin, 200mg Doxycycline            

Blackfoot, my impression is that like any presentation given at a point of time, and then looked at later, a greater perspective might be added. Yes, I too saw that absence  of a number of conditions in the slide show listing too but have read enough of the patents information to know that it sure seems to apply to me and my presentation of infection.Louise CFS/ME. CPn posititve antibodies, Bb positive antibody. Started CAP 6/24/07 Doxy & NAC 11/3/07 Macrolide 150mgBID added to Doxy100mgBID,NAC600mgBID 11/22/07 #1 Tini Full pulse 500mg BID 11/26/07Cholestyramine HS for porphoria/Lipo Endotoxin sxs x 1 week after pulses.

  • CAP(TiniOnly): 06/07-02/09 for CFS
  • MethylationProtocolSupplements: Started08/08
  • Intermtnt CAP: 02/09-02/10
  • Full MethylProtocol & LDN 02/09
  • Off CAP: 02/10, cont LDN & MethlyProtocol support

 Also remember that this is a powerpoint presentation, i.e. done for a particular audience. It was not meant to be an exhaustive presentation on Cpn, only an outline of it in TWARS. Louise's surmise is correct: liver toxicity with almost all of the highly potent antichlamydials has been noted. As has been noted elsewhere, Dr. Stratton's hypothesis about this is that one of the significant sites of infection is the liver itself, and that the liver toxicity we see reported in these high-potency drugs may be from overly fast kill effect and mass apoptosis of liver (or other organ) cells. The problem in Cpn infections when they have gone beyond acute respiratory infeciton, is aggressive treatment not only can feel horrible, but can actually harm you. CAP for Cpn 11/04. Dx: 25yrs CFS & FMS. Protocol: 200mg Doxy, 500mg MWF Azith, Tini 1000mg/day pulses; Vit D1000 units, Cytotec 100mg, Plaquenil 100mg, Magnascent Iodine 12 drps/day, T4 & T3