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Slide Presentation on Cpn from Charles Stratton [1]

Submitted by Jim K on Sun, 2005-09-11 11:38.
  • Bacterial forms/stages [2]
  • Bacterial load [3]
  • Cryptic form [4]
  • EB- Elementary body [5]
  • RB- Reticular body [6]
  • TWARS [7]

Although focused on respiratory diseasei [8], this slide show provides and excellent summary of Cpni [9] in general, and why combination antibiotic therapy is so important.

Click This Link [10] for a powerpoint presentation by Charles Strattoni [11] on Cpn.

It includes great pictures of the organism at different life phases, and links Cpn various diseasesi [12].

Download a .pdf file of the slide show, thanks to Red (!) CLICK HERE [13]

Something Viral or different NAC? [14]

Submitted by jeanneroz on Fri, 2008-10-24 09:35.
  • Bacterial forms/stages [2]
  • Chronic Fatigue Syndrome [15]
  • EB- Elementary body [5]
  • Fibromyalgia [16]
  • Immune [17]
  • Infections [18]
  • Persistence [19]
  • Protocols [20]
  • Respiratory disease [8]

For the past week I have been struggling with what appears to feel like a chest cold (or those  CPNi [9] elementary bodies are reactivated?)  This is such a strange feeling, in that, even though I have been "sick" with all the repercussions of the protocol, I haven't had anything like a cold, flu, or viral type illness since being on CAPi [21].  I have been running a low grade fever, coughing and feeling very flu-like.  Considering I don't get out of the house much, if it is viral my husband probably brought it home.

Antibiotics to be available without prescription [22]

Submitted by Mariapatri on Fri, 2008-08-08 14:30.
  • Alopecia [23]
  • Alpha Lipoic Acid [24]
  • Alzheimer's disease [25]
  • Amoxicillin [26]
  • Anti-Inflammatory Drugs [27]
  • Antibiotics [28]
  • Antigen [29]
  • Arthritus [30]
  • Aspirin [31]
  • Asthma [32]
  • Atherosclerosis [33]
  • Autoimmunity [34]
  • Azithromycin [35]
  • Bacterial forms/stages [2]
  • Bacterial load [3]
  • Behcet's disease [36]
  • Bowel diseases [37]
  • Cardiovascular Disease [38]
  • Charles Stratton [11]
  • Cholesterol [39]
  • Chronic Fatigue Syndrome [15]
  • Cox-2 inhibitors [40]
  • Crohn's Disease [41]
  • Cryptic form [4]
  • Cytokines [42]
  • David Wheldon [43]
  • Diseases [12]
  • Doxycycline [44]
  • EB- Elementary body [5]
  • Encephalitis [45]
  • Endotoxins [46]
  • Fibromyalgia [16]
  • Flagyl [47]
  • Folic acid [48]
  • Genetics [49]
  • GERD [50]
  • Heat shock protein [51]
  • Hypertension [52]
  • Immune [17]
  • Infections [18]
  • Inflammation [53]
  • INH [54]
  • Interstitial cystitis [55]
  • Iritable bowel syndrome [56]
  • Lab testing [57]
  • Lipopolysaccharide endotoxin [58]
  • Lymphoma [59]
  • Macular Degeneration [60]
  • Melatonin [61]
  • Minocycline [62]
  • Multiple Sclerosis [63]
  • myalgic encephalomyelitis [64]
  • NAC [65]
  • Neurological diseases [66]
  • niacin [67]
  • Non-steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs [68]
  • PCR [69]
  • Penicillan [70]
  • Persistence [19]
  • Pneumoia [71]
  • Porphyrias [72]
  • primary biliary cirrhosis [73]
  • Prostititis [74]
  • Protocols [20]
  • RB- Reticular body [6]
  • Respiratory disease [8]
  • Rhematoid arthritus [75]
  • Rheumatoid diseases [76]
  • Rifamcin [77]
  • Rosacea [78]
  • Rosacea [79]
  • Roxithromycin [80]
  • Seratonin [81]
  • Serology [82]
  • Sinusitus [83]
  • Skin disorders [84]
  • Steroids [85]
  • Supplements [86]
  • Tinidazole [87]
  • tinnitus [88]
  • TWARS [7]
  • Urinary tract problems [89]
  • Uterine fibroids [90]
  • Vanderbilt Protocol [91]
  • Vitamin D [92]
  • Vitamins [93]

This is the news:  In England, possible antibioticsi [28] to be sold over the counter, to treat CHLAMYDIA!

This is the story form http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/aug/06/health [94]

Oral antibiotics are to be made available for the first time without doctor's prescription under guidelines approved yesterday by the medicines regulator.

A pill to treat chlamydia, the most commonly diagnosed sexually transmitted infection, will become available for purchase in pharmacies across England later this year.

Apolipoprotein E4 enhances attachment of Chlamydophila pneumoniae elementary bodies to host cells. [95]

Submitted by NellyP on Sun, 2008-07-06 07:23.
  • Cpn-related research: Member-posted [96]
  • EB- Elementary body [5]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17997273?ordinalpos=8&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum [97]
Microb Pathog. [98] 2008 Apr;44(4):279-85.

LATENT CHLAMYDIAL INFECTIONS: THE PROBABLE CAUSE OF A WIDE SPECTRUM OF HUMAN DISEASES [99]

Submitted by dxrinaldi on Thu, 2008-05-15 14:16.
  • Amoxicillin [26]
  • Antibiotics [28]
  • Azithromycin [35]
  • Bacterial forms/stages [2]
  • Bacterial load [3]
  • Doxycycline [44]
  • EB- Elementary body [5]
  • Infections [18]
  • RB- Reticular body [6]
Articles - Bibliography CHLAMYDIA PNEUMONIAE

A few articles [100]

Submitted by dxrinaldi on Tue, 2008-05-13 15:35.
  • Speculations and theoretical queries [101]
  • Bacterial forms/stages [2]
  • Bacterial load [3]
  • Diseases [12]
  • EB- Elementary body [5]
  • Infections [18]
  • Persistence [19]
  • Respiratory disease [8]

A few interesting Articles :

Blood Cell Infection? [102]

Submitted by Mark Hall on Sun, 2008-03-23 14:24.
  • Cpn treatment experiences [103]
  • EB- Elementary body [5]
  • RB- Reticular body [6]

I am a bit confused.  I have read that the EBi [5]'s can be carried on red blood cells, but can they invade and infect red blood cells becoming RB's?

Mark

Barberry Herb & CPN [104]

Submitted by Mark Hall on Mon, 2008-02-25 13:01.
  • Cpn-related research: Member-posted [96]
  • Antibiotics [28]
  • EB- Elementary body [5]

Paula has been taking Samento as I have said in previous posts since April 2007.  As she slowly increased the dose to the full dose back in July 2007, this was when her mucal discharge from her nose and ears started.  (She didn't have any of this prior to Samento)

After talking to our Lyme doc, he agreed that Samento may be killing the EBi [5]'s before Paula even started taking NACi [65] in November 2007.

Reading up on the other herbs distributed by Nutramedix, it lists the herb Barberry as being good for cpni [9].

I just thought it was worth posting these links:-

http://www.bionatus.com/nutramedix/pdfs/antimicrobialcompared_Bs.pdf [105]

Amoxicillin & NAC [106]

Submitted by Mark Hall on Sun, 2007-12-23 11:35.
  • Cpn treatment experiences [103]
  • Amoxicillin [26]
  • Chronic Fatigue Syndrome [15]
  • EB- Elementary body [5]
  • NAC [65]

Hi,

After Paula has taken her 14 days of Ivermectin in the new year, she will start on the Amoxicillini [26] 500mg twice per day.  By then she will also be on 2400mg of NACi [65].

She has a 2 month supply of Amoxy.  It was suggested in an earlier post that maybe the doc has perscribed Amoxy, knowing she is already taking NAC, to give the EBi [5]'s a big kick where it hurts!

Paula would rather not take the Amoxy full time because there will be enough die-off of good bacteria with the other abxi [28]'s that she will be taking eventually (even with taking acidofilus).

So I have two questions to ask:-

1) Should we continue the Amoxy after this two month course (We will be taking the 2400mg NAC every day anyway)?

Bursting a lot of EB's at once [107]

Submitted by garcia on Sat, 2007-06-09 08:19.
  • Cpn treatment experiences [103]
  • EB- Elementary body [5]

Hi all,

I'd like to know, what is the physical sensation of bursting a lot of EBi [5]'s at once?

I have a good reason for asking - related to the quote Daisy managed to pull up from the Stratton patent regarding the use of dithiol reducing agents to counter EB's.

many thanks,

garcia.

what to do, what to do....? [108]

Submitted by jeanneroz on Sat, 2007-05-26 14:31.
  • Antibiotics [28]
  • Bacterial load [3]
  • Chronic Fatigue Syndrome [15]
  • Doxycycline [44]
  • EB- Elementary body [5]
  • Respiratory disease [8]

.. having a pity party today. It's Memorial Day weekend here in the US... beautiful, sunny day, and I can barely walk around the yard, let alone do anything physical, even driving a car.  My husband is working overtime and I am home alone... not a good day.  YET, I AM alive, just feeling a bit depressed and not knowing which way to go.

Thinking outside the box-is there a future better way? [109]

Submitted by cfs_info on Thu, 2007-05-10 19:12.
  • Speculations and theoretical queries [101]
  • Antibiotics [28]
  • Bacterial forms/stages [2]
  • Bacterial load [3]
  • Cryptic form [4]
  • EB- Elementary body [5]
  • Endotoxins [46]
  • Infections [18]
  • RB- Reticular body [6]

As one reads the entries on this site you learn of many challenges and hardships faced as one deals with the numerous reactions to the protocol. Many are due to the die off aspects.

It makes me wonder if somewhere in the future there could be another way that might be more tolerable and perhaps quicker. I'd like to toss out a few thoughts for different approaches that maybe someday might work(or not). Given the vast knowledge and experience of the members of this site, I invite and encourage other thoughts. Maybe there is an audience out there that might explore some of these ideas if they were captured here - you know - "plant the seed" or "put a bug in ones ear".

Here goes:

Tackling the EB Form [110]

Submitted by garcia on Wed, 2007-05-02 14:27.
  • Cpn treatment experiences [103]
  • EB- Elementary body [5]

Is it essential to tackle the EBi [5] form of the bacteria?

I ask because I've seen both opinions expressed on this site.

My problem is that I'm mercury poisoned and can't tolerate NACi [65]. Mercury poisoned people tend to have high cysteine and so NAC is contra-indicated. I react badly to NAC and sulfur foods (I get headaches and my mind goes blank). I've had this since before I got CPni [9] and its unlike any of the reactions I get from antibioticsi [28]. So I'm almost certain its not CPn die-off.

Also I have really bad gut dysbiosis, so I'm loathe to take amoxicillini [26] long term as it gives me candida.

Help I am so confused [111]

Submitted by Superglo on Thu, 2007-04-12 22:05.
  • Amoxicillin [26]
  • Antibiotics [28]
  • Atherosclerosis [33]
  • Azithromycin [35]
  • Bacterial forms/stages [2]
  • Bacterial load [3]
  • Behcet's disease [36]
  • Cardiovascular Disease [38]
  • Cholesterol [39]
  • Chronic Fatigue Syndrome [15]
  • Cryptic form [4]
  • Diseases [12]
  • Doxycycline [44]
  • EB- Elementary body [5]
  • Encephalitis [45]
  • Endotoxins [46]
  • Fibromyalgia [16]
  • Flagyl [47]
  • Genetics [49]
  • GERD [50]
  • Heat shock protein [51]
  • Hypertension [52]
  • Immune [17]
  • Infections [18]
  • INH [54]
  • Lipopolysaccharide endotoxin [58]
  • Lymphoma [59]
  • Macular Degeneration [60]
  • Minocycline [62]
  • Penicillan [70]
  • Porphyrias [72]
  • primary biliary cirrhosis [73]
  • RB- Reticular body [6]
  • Rifamcin [77]
  • Rosacea [78]
  • Roxithromycin [80]
  • Tinidazole [87]
  • tinnitus [88]

I am still trying to get a grasp on Chlamydia Pneumoniae, I just found out on 4-11-07.  But I have been sick for awhile  Cry.  I am just starting Antibioticsi [28] again......eeeeek Foot in mouth.  My symptoms have been sinus infectionsi [18] and uppper respitory infections , Phlaringitis, Broncotitis, Asthmai [32].  In and out of the Dr. office the month of April, and my throat swelled shut I could go on and on.  I ended up at an Infetious disease Dr.

adipose tissue's role? [112]

Submitted by farandwide on Wed, 2007-03-28 09:41.
  • Speculations and theoretical queries [101]
  • Cryptic form [4]
  • EB- Elementary body [5]
  • Infections [18]
  • RB- Reticular body [6]

I was at the gym last night and reflecting on the events prior to my diagnosis with MSi [63] and leading up to it. One of the things that stands out in my mind is that my condition worsened greatly over the course of a year just prior to the diagnosis which was happening at the very same time I was losing large amounts of weight. In fact, the onset of the active form of my condition was 2 - 3 months after I set off into attempting weight loss.

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