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Amoxicillin & NAC
By Mark Hall
Created 12/23/2007 - 11:35am

  • Cpn treatment experiences
  • Amoxicillin
  • Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
  • EB- Elementary body
  • NAC

Hi,

After Paula has taken her 14 days of Ivermectin in the new year, she will start on the Amoxicillini [1] 500mg twice per day.  By then she will also be on 2400mg of NACi [2].

She has a 2 month supply of Amoxy.  It was suggested in an earlier post that maybe the doc has perscribed Amoxy, knowing she is already taking NAC, to give the EBi [3]'s a big kick where it hurts!

Paula would rather not take the Amoxy full time because there will be enough die-off of good bacteria with the other abxi [4]'s that she will be taking eventually (even with taking acidofilus).

So I have two questions to ask:-

1) Should we continue the Amoxy after this two month course (We will be taking the 2400mg NAC every day anyway)?

2) I know that you should take all antibiotics away from the mineral and acidofilus supplementsi [5] (as well as not within 2 hrs either side of charcoal), but how long a period of time should you wait before taking the minerals & acidofilus?

As soon as she can tollerate the Amoxy, we will ask for the Doxyi [6].

Thanks guys and girls!

Mark.

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UK Carer of bedridden Severe ME/CFS Feb06. Bitten by ticks Summer 04.  CPNi [7]i [7] dx. Apr07. Borrelia dx Sept08. Samento 15 drops per day July07.  2400mg 1200mg NAC 200mg. Doxyi [6] Jan08.  150mg Roxyi [8]i [8] Dec 1st 08

UK Carer of bedridden

Submitted by Mark Hall on Sun, 2007-12-23 11:35.

UK Carer of bedridden Severe ME/CFS Feb06. CPNi [7] dx. Apr07. Samento 15 drops per day July07.  1500mg NACi [2] per day Dec07. Building up on supp. before CAPi [9].

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UK Carer of bedridden Severe ME/CFS Feb06. Bitten by ticks Summer 04.  CPNi [7] dx. Apr07. Borrelia dx Sept08. Samento 15 drops per day July07.  2400mg 1200mg NAC 200mg. Doxyi [6] Jan08.  150mg Roxyi [8] Dec 1st 08

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Historically NACi was

Submitted by Michele on Sun, 2007-12-23 12:49.

Historically NACi [2] was introduced byDr Wheldon to replace amoxycillin as it did the same job but was kinder to the GI tract and supports the liver. Most of us do not take amoxycillin, but I know that there are a few people that do and maybe they will get back to you with their experience.

The important part of the protocol is the twin bacteriostatic abxi [4], either doxycycline and azithromycin or doxycycline and roxitromycin which in tandem prevent the reproductive cycle from happening and therefore prevent resistance to the antibiotics.

So amoxycillin would be taken in addition to the other two antibiotics.

It is essential to address all the cycles of Cpni [7], so amoxycillin or NAC addressed the EBs, and doxi and azi address the RBs, Flagyl addresses the cryptic phase of the cycle.

Michele (UK) GFAi [10]: Wheldon CAPi [9] 1st May 2006. Daily Doxy, Azi MWF, metroi [11] pulse. Zoo keeper for Ella, RRMSi [12], At worse EDSSi [13] 9, 3 months later 7 now 5.5 Wheldon CAP 16th March 2006

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Michèle (UK) GFAi [10]: Wheldon CAPi [9] 1st May 2006. Daily Doxyi [6], Azi MWF, metroi [11] pulse. Zoo keeper for Ella, RRMSi [12], At worse EDSSi [13] 9, 3 months later 7 now 5.5 Wheldon CAP 16th March 2006

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Hi, Thanks Michelle.  We [14]

Submitted by Mark Hall on Mon, 2007-12-24 04:36.

Hi,

Thanks Michelle.  We are thinking about forgetting about the Amoxy and just continuing to reach the full dose of NAC instead.  I notice that you also reside in the UK and presume you get your abxi [4] online.  Could you point me in the right direction for a good online pharmacy (preferably that doesn't ask for perscription)? 

Thanks,

Mark

 

UK Carer of bedridden Severe ME/CFS Feb06. CPNi [7] dx. Apr07. Samento 15 drops per day July07.  1500mg NAC per day Dec07. Building up on supp. before CAPi [9].

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UK Carer of bedridden Severe ME/CFS Feb06. Bitten by ticks Summer 04.  CPNi [7] dx. Apr07. Borrelia dx Sept08. Samento 15 drops per day July07.  2400mg 1200mg NAC 200mg. Doxyi [6] Jan08.  150mg Roxyi [8] Dec 1st 08

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Hi Mark I use two online

Submitted by Michele on Mon, 2007-12-24 07:58.

Hi Mark I use two online pharmacies, edrugnet.com and inhousepharmacy.co.uk, the prices are comparable but I usually check both. If you can get a prescription though I have been able to get 112 doxycycline for £11.27 from pharmacy2u.co.uk.

Michele (UK) GFAi [10]: Wheldon CAPi [9] 1st May 2006. Daily Doxy, Azi MWF, metroi [11] pulse. Zoo keeper for Ella, RRMSi [12], At worse EDSSi [13] 9, 3 months later 7 now 5.5 Wheldon CAP 16th March 2006

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Michèle (UK) GFAi [10]: Wheldon CAPi [9] 1st May 2006. Daily Doxyi [6], Azi MWF, metroi [11] pulse. Zoo keeper for Ella, RRMSi [12], At worse EDSSi [13] 9, 3 months later 7 now 5.5 Wheldon CAP 16th March 2006

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I am no doctor Mark, but

Submitted by ruthless1 on Mon, 2007-12-24 12:07.

I am no doctor Mark, but that seems like alot of anything to be taking daily.  Maybe just hold off until the NACi [2] is better tolerated.  We don't want to take a sledge hammer to poor Paula.

Merry Christ Mass

CFIDSi [15]/ME 25yrs, FMSi [16], IBSi [17], EBVi [18], Cpni [7], (insomnia - melatonini [19], GABA, tarazadone, triazolam, novocyclopine, allergy formula, 3 gm tryptophan), Natural HRT peri-M, NAC 1.5 gm, 6-07 Doxy 200 mg day pm, Azith 375 mg M/W/Fday, 12-3-07 4th pulse 1 X 375 mg 3day

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CFIDSi [15]/ME 32 yrs, FMSi [16], IBSi [17], EBVi [18], CMV, Cpni [7], chronic insomnia, Lymes, HME, Natural HRT peri-M, NAC 3 gm, 6-07 Doxy 200 mg day pm, Azith 375 mg M/W/Fday, Pulse#15 750 mg X 5 days 11-1-08

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