i dont know why but clozapine 25 mg 2-3 times a day lowers pain from chlamydia quite a lot. sometimes pain goes away at all


It's an antipsychotic.  That's why.  

It has nothing to do with actually treating cpn, though. 

The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems. Mohandas Gandhi

Jesper, it's great that this med may alleviate MS symptoms, but it isn't a treatment for CPN.  Symptom relief is a coping mechanism.  The abx protocol is a treatment to eliminate the cause of the disease. 

The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems. Mohandas Gandhi

no, never tried it

Treating PPMS with Azithromycin 250 mg every other day, Doxy 100 mg BiD, Coconut oil 4 times daily,  five flagyl pulses. Been sick since June 2009. Having good success and very few symptoms.

Mac is right here, both of  you. The only way to totally get rid of C pn is  to follow the protocol given here. It worked for her and it worked for me: at least try it!..........Sarah 

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

jack, i dont have MS and clozapine helps me with pain. i want to notice that risperidone does NOT help

i live now 1,5 years without AB treatment and all this time i used clozapine and i t helped me a lot. But be careful to use high dosages of it, it can cause heart arythmia. i never used more than 75 mg a day(3 times). now i use 25-50 mg a day. if you try higher dosages please describe it here

Unless you yourself suffer from schizophrenia, I would not take the antipsychotic medication. There are some serious risks, for example a risk for an irreversible neural damage such as tardive dyskinesia

and these complications develop much more frequently if a person without schizophrenia is being treated with these medicaments.

jack i dont have schizophrenia and i dont have tardive dyskinesia and i feel quite well. I used clozapine more than a year. The chlamydia pains are so strong and lasting that you can easily commit suicide, what are you talking about?!

and those schizophrenia guys they are treated up to 500 mg of clozapine a day

thanks for those sites you provided. it is very interesting. unfortunatelly big pharma companies are not interested in inventing new AB or vaccines against diseases coze they make huge money on selling what they have now

by the way what do you know about anti-chlamydia vaccines? shall we try chlamydia felis vaccine for cats?

i write for people whom AB don't help.

It looks like clozapine supress cpn in some ways, maybe the reason lies in the hormonal levels.

Haloperidol helps also but it hurts heart a lot and i dont use it.

Be very careful of using these 2 drugs especially haloperidol.

Of course, you cant be cured by clozapine  but make the life better for sure

Of course the Ab treatment is better, but modern chlamydia has become very resistant to AB, as all these 20 years people used AB. It's the same with HIV. i see a lot of common between HIV and CPN. CPn looks like more a virus than bacteria. Azytromicin does not work at all and should be taken away from CAP.

m2m,  Kindly speak for yourself.  Azithromycin certainly DOES work. 

If you feel it didn't work for you (although you CLEARLY STATED you did not follow the recommended protocol at all), that's fine to say it.  But do not make untrue blanket promouncements about medications prescribed for the eradication of CPN.  

This site doesn't exist to promote treatments to mitigate symptoms.  This site is about the treatment and eradication of CPN.

The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems. Mohandas Gandhi

mac that was i meant Azytro did not work at all in my case. Considering quantity of azytro taken each day i would recommend 1 g a day not 750 mg a weak.

As i told before i found the cpn help web site after i used all my AB and i did not know  that was CPN

i talked to a lot of doctors but none  of them said that it can be CPN. they thoght it was chtrachomatis or gonorrhoea. And the treatment for trachomatis last 28 days with 2-3 consecutive AB

Clozapine is an antipsychotic drug used to treat schizophrenia. Incidentally, I am involved in a research investigating the neuroimmunology of schizophrenia and it seems increasingly probable that schizophrenia (at least some cases) is caused by autoimmunity and neuroinflammation. We investigated about 20 various cytokines and found significant differences compared to healthy people.

The current wisdom is that antipsychotics work on the dopamine receptors, but there are also some alternative explanations that antipsychotics are immunomodulators. Antipsychotics (such as clozapine) can change the cytokine profiles.

so antipsychotics can possibly alleviate the symptoms of MS, because MS is certainly a neuroinflammation.

Hi Norman, thanks, I was aware of that. It is unfortunate but medicine functions like it is described in the blog. It has something to do with prevailing paradigms about the causes of the disorders. The current paradigm about schizophrenia is that it is a disturbance of the dopamine neurotransmission. If some new antipsychotic drug hit the market, all the psychiatrists would start using it, there would be a lot of studies. I experienced it with vortioxetine (antidepressant) a couple of years ago. It came to the market and suddenty everyone started using it. But minocycline? It is a cheap drug, no longer patented. If a drug company discoveres a new medicament, there is some time window, when they have a patent and a privilege to be the only ones to make and sell the drug to pay for the research costs. The new medicament is expensive, there is profit to be made, they make lots of ads, the send their dealers to the doctors, they sponsor conferences, they push their new medicament. But minocycline is cheap, is old and is no more patented. Nobody will pay for advertisement. There is no profit to be made. And another problem is the paradigm. 99% of psychiatrists were taught that schizophrenia is a disturbance of the dopamine neurotransmission and few are able or willing to think outside the box. That is why they accept new ideas so slowly. We will have to wait for a paradigm change. Science is like fashion. Someone publishes an influential paper, many others jump on the bandwagon and publish similar papers and get lots of citations. If you publish something that is out of fashion, bad luck, nobody will read it, nobody will cite it. The process of science is deeply irrational, the whole system of research in the west is rotten. So much money is wasted on junk projects, so much junk papers are published all the time, because the academicians need to publish in order to survive and progress their careers. And I guess what I have written above might be applied to MS as well. The current decades old paradigm is that it is an autoimmune disorder against myeline. If a new expensive immunomodulator to treat MS came to market, everyone would be using it. But antibiotic protocols are outside the box.

and concerning schizophrenia, I think we can do even better then minocycline. For example vitamin D and other nutrients