14 Feb 2022 03:34 pm
Hi To all of you Dear Friends,
I have started Dr. Wheldon's protocol on 17Th of Dec. 2021.
On the Supplements' list at the end of it it's mentioned a med called Diflucan, is this med to be taken? if yes how? is the first time I see it.
Thanks in advance to whom will answer my query.
14 Feb 2022 03:34 pm
14 Feb 2022 04:15 pm
Hi Norman,
Thank you for replying to my query.
Do you mean to say that due to antibiotics intake there may be an over growth of funghi such candida and therefore some people use this drug to prevent or control funghi over growing?
Regards
15 Feb 2022 02:37 am
Hello Minow, how about finishing the day with a cup of live yoghurt? If you do there should be no need at all for things like diflucan.
Sarah
Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent. Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.
15 Feb 2022 08:28 am
Hi Sarah,
Thanks for your reply, yes we are using probiotic ad yogurt alternatively.
We have now been on antibiotic doxy + NAC(2 months) and roxy (2 weeks). Yesterday we had our blood urine analyses done, everything looks fine, we just have below which are a bit of concern for us;
erythrocytes hemoglobin in urine 250 mcL ( which is high)
and erythrocytes count as 410.( which is high)
This is a sign that red blood cell are expelling from body the bacteria's waste?
In the blood we have had some improvements on HDL and Glucose values.
Liver Values :
AST (SGOT): 35 U/L ( slightly over the limit 32)
ALT: (SGPT): 29 U/L ( very good)
GGT: 15 U/L (very good)
Creatinine Kinaze : 430 U/L ( high, it tends to be always high with my wife).
Ferritine : 318 ug/L ( high, it tends to be always high with my wife)
Vitamin B12: 813 ng/L ( high, I am not clear about it, high is good or bad?).
Overall my wife looks stable, I don't know if I will be able to control porphyria.
I would like to thank in advance those who will give me some assistance on this topic, I can submit analyses paper if someone wants to look into it more in detahils. May I remind you that my wife is affected by Bulbar ALS.
Thanks a lot from the bottom of my heart.
Michele Sorice
15 Feb 2022 11:10 am
Michele, you are doing very well with your wife. Her b12 levels are only just about high, but being a water based vitamin, will drop if you leave off supplementing for just a day. I don't think you have anything to worry about though, having gone through everything else this morning.
How is she feeling in herself?
Sarah
Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent. Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.
15 Feb 2022 02:12 pm
Hi Sarah,
My wife is doing well, of course we do not have objective improvements yet, but on the other hand with ALS stability is already a big blessing, and my wife ( Sukran is her name, we met in U.K. many years ago!) is stable for now.
So you think that there is no reason to worry for below urine vaues of erythrocytes? I ask info persistently because I do have to give explanation as well here to my wife and her brothers and sisters, as nobody really understand what I am up to.
erythrocytes hemoglobin in urine 250 mcL ( which is high)
and erythrocytes count as 410.( which is high)
Yours Sincerely
Michele Sorice
15 Feb 2022 02:56 pm
Yes, taking antibiotics sometimes results in overgrowth of fungi that had been held in check by resident bacteria populations. In saying "most people here" don't have that problem and don't take antifungals I was being conservative: actually I can't think of any specific person who did take them, though there probably have been some.
One thing about stealth infections is that there are a lot of different communities on the net, each focused on one pathogen and which tend to blame it for everything. We're focused on Cpn, but there's a serious candida community out there somewhere which blames fungi for all sorts of ailments. The mainstream medicine version, though, is that fungal infections are pretty obvious when you get them and that you can wait until you actually have a problem before taking Diflucan. Problems that arise this way are mainly in the gut and in the genitals; other places don't have enough resident bacteria for them to be serious competition to fungi. Diagnosis is often by smell. Again, that's all mainstream medicine, and probably isn't too far wrong. Still, there is a possibility of fungi being involved in other diseases, and I wouldn't absolutely rule out the candida community's point of view, though I've never been interested enough in it to even be able to tell you where on the net to go to find it.
Anyway, the basic answer to "does diflucan being on the list mean I should be taking it" is no. It's there for if you need it, and the need would likely be obvious.
16 Feb 2022 12:05 am
Thank you very much Norman for your reply which explains the point very well.
Best Regards
Michele Sorice
It's an antifungal; it's for…
It's an antifungal; it's for if taking antibiotics gives you an overgrowth of fungus (such as candida). It's not something most people here take.