21 Apr 2019

Restarting abx


hello if I was going to restart abx to take in conjunction with herbs, shall i begin the whole protocol again? 



Hey Lizzie!

The two-prong approach is definitely what I am doing.

In addition to the vitamins + minerals + supplements, one thing I take every week that is very soothing and healing are herbal infusions.

Two of my favorites

--Chickweed (common name)/Stellaria media (latin name)


--Stinging Nettles (common name)/Urtica dioica (latin name)


Why do I take these if I am taking all the antibiotics + many supplements?

Because C. pneumoniae is a sneaky b----!  It has many ways of hiding itself even under the onslaught of many different antibiotics.  I feel you can't have too many weapons against it.

So, the Chickweed infusion has had a profound healing effect on my gut---softening and clearing away a very tough, thick biofilm that I believe hides persister cells of C. pneumoniae (among other latent infectious agents).  Healing my gut has and is a very high priority in this whole ugly mess:  our gut is our second brain..... 

The Nettles is a fantastic healing herb.... just all-around "filling in" vitamins and minerals that I can't take more pills for.

So, for my infusions:  I take a clean, quart glass jar with two-part lid (a canning jar), and put one heaping cup of Chickweed or Nettles in the jar.  I fill the jar with Boiling Water (not just hot).  I stir the herb to settle and soak, and then add more water to top off the jar.  I then let it sit for a MINIMUM of 4-hours, but usually I make this before bed and let it sit overnight.  I then use a strainer over a bowel, and pour off the infusion.   I put the liquid in a glass jug and place in the fridge.  I drink it all in one day... the infusions are not good to drink after a day or two.

You can drink these infusions warm or cold, and some people add salt.... you can add a bit of peppermint tea to an infusion if you don't like the taste.

I quite like the taste of both Chickweed and Nettles infusions.  I drink them cold, and they are very refreshing on a very hot day (I live in the desert).

Finally, I put the used, strained herbs in my compost pile.

For more information on herbs and infusions:  Google:  "Susun Weed + infusions + Chickweed or Nettles".   Susun (yes, spelled with two "u"s) is a simpler herbalist... working with only one herb at a time.  I quite like her simple, gentle approach to working with herbs.

I buy my dry herbs from these companies:  Frontier Herbs, San Francisco Herb Company, Starwest Botannicals (all found on their own sites and Amazon).

I also take these herbs in extract or tincture formulas when I can't get around to making the infusions.  I use a company called Herb Pharm (found on Amazon).  They have many tinctures in both alcohol and glycerin.  These are expensive, but a little goes a long way. 


One herb I am going to add to my repertoire of infusions is Linden Flower.... I have never tried this one, but Susun Weed writes that it is great for inflammation which I think most people have with C. pneumoniae.


OK, thanks for reading, and if you have any questions send them my way!




56 y.o. with possible dual diagnoses that I am working to confirm this year: Ankylosing Spondylitis and Scleroderma, and minor Psoriasis.