nac
How long does it take for NAC to produce any proof that its having some sort of effect, be is positive or negative? Just any "proof" that indicateds that elementary bodies are dying whatever that may be
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Some people seem to get Nac flu/cold on small doses quickly for others it takes larger doses 2400 mg a day for a few days before they get Nac flu/cold. Also others here have improved from antibioticsi but never experienced anything noticeable from Nac at all.
For me - taking the NAC with Vita E and Selenium really turned the hydrant on in my sinuses.
Daisy - Husband on CAPi 5/07. Minoi, Roxyi, Diflucan round two 1-31, Rifampin, Bactrim DS, Prednisone, Novantrone, Doxyi, Azithromycin, Flagyli
Daisy - Husband on CAPi 5/07. Husband died from Acute Myelogenous Leukemia Secondary to the Infusion of Novantrone. Ie - the treatment with the conventional MSi drugs killed him.
Daisy on her own CAP 11/2012.
I got the so-called "NACi-flu" (runny nose, chills, muscle aches, etc.) a couple of weeks after I started taking 1,200 mg (2 x 600 mg capsules) a day and then I got a milder version of the same symptoms when I stepped up to 2,400 mg per day.
CAP for M.S. since 8/2007. Currently: 100 mg Dox. (2 x day), 250 mg Zithi (3 x week) ceased 3/2008, 150 mg Roxi (2 x day) starting 3/2008. Sixth pulse metronidazole completed 3/15/2008.
CAPi for M.S. 8/2007 - 3/2009. Twentieth pulse metronidazole + INHi completed 3/12/2009. Intermittent treatment thereafter until 11/20/2009.
Agree with Daisy and Hd - if you keep ramping up the dose you should notice something within being at 2400mg for a few days.
Is there anyone here that doesn't react to NACi at all??
CFSi. Started CAPi 03-07.
Currently: Roxi 600mg + Doxyi 200mg . 10 Pulses done. Sauna every other day. D 7200IU
Everyone is different. Some people have a small amount of EBs to deal with while others have more. It really depends on how long you've been infected.
In my case, I had a massive load of EBs. My first empirical test of the CAPi was using NACi for 3 days. I took 1200mg per day for 3 days and the results were unmistakable. So, do whatever you feel is right to determine for yourself whether there is a CPni infection but be warned, you may have an outcome that you're unprepared for, so be prepared.
all my best
John
RRMSi/EDSSi was 4.5, now 4.??? on Wheldon Protocol (nac, doxycycline, azithromycin, metronidazole) since 04/12/2006. Added Rifampin 2x150mg/daily on 08/19/2007
best, John
RRMSi/EDSSi was 4.5, 5, 6, 6.5, 6.9999, 6.5 on Wheldon/Stratton Protocol beginning 04/12/2006
naci 4x600 mg/day
doxycycline 2x100mg/day
azithromycin 3x250mg/day MWF
metronidazole 3x400mg/day then 3x500mg/day
The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems. Mohandas Gandhi
The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems. Mohandas Gandhi
I didn't start NACi until about eighteen months after starting abxi and all I got, at 2400 mg a day, was a runny nose for a few days. David got much more reaction for about three weeks...........Sarah
An Itinerary in Light and Shadow...........Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MSi in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent. Still slowly improving and no exacerbation since starting. EDSSi was 7, now 2, less on a good day.
Mac, thats pretty impressive that you still react so visibly after so long (even if its only for a few minutes). Especially given that your reactions otherwise have been muted. Just goes to show how useful NACi is as an indicator of the presence of Cpni.
P.S. I wish I got sinus drainage reactions. Mine are much more subtle and long term (mostly severe drop in body temp).
Is also makes me wonder if there anyone amongst us who gets absolutely no reaction from NAC whatsoever.
CFSi. Started CAPi 03-07.
Currently: Roxi 600mg + Doxyi 200mg . 10 Pulses done. Sauna every other day. D 7200IU
I started out with 600 mg 2 X a day & right away had the NACi flu. I ramped up doseage & I now take 2.5 gms a day.
CFIDSi/ME 25yrs, FMSi, IBSi, EBVi, Cpni, (insomnia - melatonini, GABA, tarazadone, triazolam, novocycloprine, allergy formula, 3 gm tryptophan), Natural HRT peri-M, NAC 2.5 gm, 6-07 Doxy 200 mg day pm, Azith 375 mg M/W/Fday, 2-26-08 7th pulse 2 X 375 mg 2day
CFIDSi/ME, FMSi, MCS, IBSi, EBVi, CMV, Cpni, H1, chronic insomnia, Chronic Lyme, HME, Babesia, Natural HRT-menopause, NAC 2.4 gm,Full CAP 6-2-07, all supplementsi+Iodorol, Inositol-depression, ultra Chitosan, L lysine Pulse#27 04-19-10 1gm Flagyli/day-5 days<
Look for sales! I generally use Swansons as I've found their house brands to be of good quality, as are those from Vitacost. Periodically there are 2 for 1 sales and such that help out.
CAPi for Cpni 11/04. Dxi: 25yrs CFSi & FMSi. Protocol: 200mg Doxyi, 500mg MWF Azith, Tinii 1000mg/day pulses; Vit D1000 units, Iodoral 50mg, T4 & T3
CAPi for Cpni 11/04. Dxi: 25+yrs CFSi & FMSi. Currently: 250 aithromycin mwf, doxycycline 100mg BIDi, restarted Tinii pulses; Vit D2000 units, T4 & T3, 6mg Iodoral
Paula seems to get fluish type feeling every once in a while. The major symptom is the intermittant clear mucal drainage into her throat from her nose and/or ears.
She started getting this after starting on the maximum dose of Samento and continues to this day. As Samento has general antibiotic properties, we wonder if it is doing the same job as NACi?
Mark
UK Carer of bedridden Severe ME/CFS Feb06. CPNi dxi. Apr07. Samento 15 drops per day July07. 2400mg NAC 200mg Doxyi Jan 08.
UK Carer of bedridden Severe CFS Feb06. Tick bites Summer04. CPNi dxi.Apr07. Borrelia dx Sept08. Samento 15 drps daily July07. 200mg Doxyi Jan08. 300mg Roxy Apr08 Stopped abxi Nov/Dec08. Building up on Supps again.
NACi is not an antibiotic as such, it only acts on the EBs by disrupting di-sulphide bonds. Not sure what effect Samento might have.
Michèle (UK) GFAi: Wheldon CAPi 1st May 2006. Daily Doxyi, Azi MWF, metroi pulse. Zoo keeper for Ella, RRMSi, At worse EDSSi 9, 3 months later 7 now 5.5 Wheldon CAP 16th March 2006
Michèle (UK) GFAi: Wheldon CAPi 1st May 2006. Daily Doxyi, Azi MWF, metroi pulse.
Hi thanks for the replies, and for the record, in my case it took 2 days (*and I guess because my infection is in my facial nerves and skin)... I woke up in the middle of the night feeling like I had mites. I even had to shower. I dont think it was all in my head because it woke me up out of my sleep and the main itchy area was coming from my left facial area where i had the injury. But nothing bizarre escapes me experience with this infection, its somtimes more than i can bare to be true
&nbs