Lab results

I got my lab results back.

Chlamydia pneumonia IGGi Ab             was 1:32  High                       ( range is less than 1:16)

Antibodies Chlamydia pneumonia IGG was 1:256 High                      ( range is less than 1:64)

 

Can anybody help if that means I have the disease or not.

All other tests have been n range.

 

Thank you so much.

 

I am on minocyclin only 50 mg ( not tolerating more) since about 4- 6 weeks. Have red dots and many brown dots since I started minocyclin.

I was ten days  on 750 mg of flagyli about tree weeks ago because of diverticulitis.

 

What lab did you send these to?  Did you go there in person or did they send you a kit that you mailed back?

best, John

RRMSi/EDSSi was 4.5, 5, 6, 6.5, 6.9999, 6.5 on Wheldon/Stratton Protocol beginning 04/12/2006
naci 4x600 mg/day
doxycycline 2x100mg/day
azithromycin 3x250mg/day MWF
metronidazole 3x400mg/day then 3x500mg/day

yep, you got it.  your reading was same as mine.

 

Antibodies Chlamydia pneumonia IGGi was 1:256 High      

Mphs, TN. CFSi, hypoT (Hashi), adrenal fatigue, hormonal inbalance. right arm neuropathy-getting better. cpni, myco, EBVi, CMV, HHV-6. Capi began in 6/07. NACi 2400mg, minoi 100mg bidi, biaxin 500mg bidi. cytomel, flagyli bid continuously.

Your lab results are confusing to me.   You have listed them both as IgGi.....

Best, Timaca

on valtrex 500 mg tid

http://whispersfromthefather.me/

 

 

 

K23la,  usually they also check your IgAi and IgM, do you  have those results as well?  Just curious. 

JeanneRoz

 

JeanneRoz ~ DXi'd w/ CPNi 4/2007; 6/07 -"officially" dx'd w/CFIDSi/FM; also: HHV6, EBVi, IBSi-C, 100 Doxyi:BIDi; 500 mg Biaxin BIDi; Tindamax Pulses, B12 shots, ERFA Dessicated Thyroid,Cortef, Iodoral 25 mg, Vit D-6,000 uni

All was done at labcorp. I wanted to have it sent to Focus labs but it was impossible.

Also the blood was sent out to another place etc. ... probably arrived after days.

It was impossible to get it send out to focus as Labcorp is not doing any sendouts now, they need money.

 

Can someone help me how I get the tests from a better lalb in the future.

Also I need more tests for viruses and my son has to be tested as well. 

Jeanne I post the entire test for you in my next post.

I am so thankful for your help.

Jeanne,

 

Labcorp is not able to do IGAs.

 

But they did the IGM which was  less than 1:10                       (range less than 1:10)

 

Chlamydia pneumonia IGGi Ab             was 1:32  High                       ( range is less than 1:16)

Antibodies Chlamydia pneumonia IGG was 1:256 High                      ( range is less than 1:64)

 

In the meantime I talked to my doctor and he thinks I am perfectly healthy and have plenty of antibodies so will never get chlamydia pneumonia.

I am desperately searching for a physician who can  treat chlamydia.

Karen

 

 

K23la,  Are you sure they don't/can't do them or perhaps your doctor didn't order the correct test(s).  Do you have actual hardcopy of the test results?  That just seems odd.   I've had work done at both Quest and Labcorp and have gotten the IgAi, IgG, and IgM titres (I know for the HHV-6 and EBVi; I could be wrong so for my own curiosity, I will double-check my past test results to make sure I am not mis-speaking here.) 

There are many here who have not been able to find doctors to treat (believe they are sick) them and are doing so themselves. 

JeanneRoz

 

JeanneRoz ~ DXi'd w/ CPNi 4/2007; 6/07 -"officially" dx'd w/CFIDSi/FM; also: HHV6, EBVi, IBSi-C, 100 Doxyi:BIDi; 500 mg Biaxin BIDi; Tindamax Pulses, B12 shots, ERFA Dessicated Thyroid,Cortef, Iodoral 25 mg, Vit D-6,000 uni

Jeanne,

thank you so much. My doctor had ordered all tests at Focus, but labcorp denied send outs. They told me they are not offering the IGAi. Why would we need the IGA?

I have hardcopies and I could neutralize them and pm to you. If you want.

I also had my viruses HHV, EBVi, CMV ... checked and guess I am totally healthy.

Yes, it is frustrating when you feel so sick and nobody can help.

I am sure I have Cpni as the minoi helped already so much and the red dots and brown dots are proof some big thing is going on.

I have a blood vessel disease, I can see it and I think the vasculitisi can be the lupus SSB Sjogren.

You are treating already since 3 years? So it will take a long time till I feel better.

Jeanneeroz                   

I spoke with LabCorp today by phone to find out it they have tests that provide IgG, IgAi, and IgM for mycoplasma pneumonia, Cpni, and Lyme (Borellia).  They don't.  What they do have is tests that get IgG and IgM.  I'm not sure why they don't also get the IgA but that's what they have.

best, John

RRMSi/EDSSi was 4.5, 5, 6, 6.5, 6.9999, 6.5 on Wheldon/Stratton Protocol beginning 04/12/2006
naci 4x600 mg/day
doxycycline 2x100mg/day
azithromycin 3x250mg/day MWF
metronidazole 3x400mg/day then 3x500mg/day

John, Lab Corp does do the CD-57 testing.  That one is a marker for Lyme, it becomes depressed with chronic persistent Bb.
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John, and K23la... thanks for that info.  My tests over the past year or so have been from Quest and they do have all three (IgG, IgAi, and IgM).   I know there was a time period I was going to Labcorp and am curious to find those older test results (just to pacify my mind).

JeanneRoz 

 

 

JeanneRoz ~ DXi'd w/ CPNi 4/2007; 6/07 -"officially" dx'd w/CFIDSi/FM; also: HHV6, EBVi, IBSi-C, 100 Doxyi:BIDi; 500 mg Biaxin BIDi; Tindamax Pulses, B12 shots, ERFA Dessicated Thyroid,Cortef, Iodoral 25 mg, Vit D-6,000 uni

Louise          

Yes, I discovered that they do the IgGi and IgM tests for Lyme, and, the second test that you can take after you come back positive for Lyme is very likely the CD-57 test you're talking about.  It's considerably more expensive then the usual antibody tests so that's probably what it is.

best, John

RRMSi/EDSSi was 4.5, 5, 6, 6.5, 6.9999, 6.5 on Wheldon/Stratton Protocol beginning 04/12/2006
naci 4x600 mg/day
doxycycline 2x100mg/day
azithromycin 3x250mg/day MWF
metronidazole 3x400mg/day then 3x500mg/day

Problem with IgG and IgM tests for Lyme is that like the CPni antibody testing, since they are both frequently occult infectionsi the immunei system has for many people, ceased reacting to these types of bacteria.  Lyme cloaks itself with your own proteins when going Cystic (this does occur when they sense that the antibiotics are acting upon them) and hide until you stop the abxi and then come out again.   The nidazole class medications damage these shells and force them out the two antireplicants the can  act on the bacteria hence the reason for the three combination abxi cocktails.

The CD-57 I may have paid for it  but I do not exactly recall what the fee was.   When you add up multiple tests it all get expensive.   Ask them what their out of pocket charge is for self pay of this test.   Some insurances consider it experimental and will not cover it.  I would hate to guess on the fee and then find out that I was way under the mark with it.   Did you ask about fees for the Lyme antibodies?

You can take the test if you can get an MD to write the requesition for it, you can take them out of order, wether your insurance pays for it is again another matter.

I had an insurance denial suprise in my mailbox yesterday.  It was over a lab drawn back in Aug 2009.    I was lucky on investigation my responsibility was $1.10, yes one dollar and ten cents.    It was like pulling teeth to get the insurance rep at Anthem to give me the whole picture I had to as question after question after question. 

Here is the interesting big picture on this one/

The fee billed was $300.00  Insurance Co did a search of my records and denied it (my MD is not participating in their plan) bla bla bla about my health history not waranting this.   They clearly want to know more to deny more.    Now my in-state based local testing lab contracts with this insurance Co.

of the $300 billed they have contracted to recieve $20.+ for this service and they recieved $16.+ leaving me responsible for $1.10.   Anyone else needing this test will need to self pay will pay the full $300.00  my local lab cannot ask me for more that the $1.00 from me.   Oh the inequality of all of this privatized health coverage.

I do not know of any way to self testing for the CD-57 or the Lyme Titers, perhaps someone else has more information that I.

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Louise           

I called LabCorp yesterday and got the codes for the 3 tests and the costs for them.  I posted those on another threas in the forum found here...

http://www.cpnhelp.org/giving_myself_blood_tests

I called Quest this morning and talked to them about the same 3 tests but didn't get the codes or the costs.  The person I spoke to did find that the Cpn test includes the IgAi whereas the others did not.

Also, Quest requires the doctor's order to have the tests done which seems completely assinine to me.  Who's blood and health is being tested exactly?  Who's paying the bill?  Complete bullshit in my opinion.

best, John

RRMSi/EDSSi was 4.5, 5, 6, 6.5, 6.9999, 6.5 on Wheldon/Stratton Protocol beginning 04/12/2006
naci 4x600 mg/day
doxycycline 2x100mg/day
azithromycin 3x250mg/day MWF
metronidazole 3x400mg/day then 3x500mg/day

Well I get what you are saying certainly but these are the rules that need to be delt with.  It may have to do with providing services and then not getting payment perhaps if the bill retrospectively.  Private labs that I have delt with either expect a substantial down payment before they will bill your private insurer and because you signed a responsiblity for ultimate fee for services they can go after you for the payment.       Responsible people pay their bills and many folks with health problems get behind and have make choices in what to pay.      This could be a long discussion of it's own and I am not interested in debating health care coverage again here so lets not go there.

A private lab that you might investigate is Genova Labs, and those who are members of Life Extention Foundation can use the services they provide (liver health can be evaluated by them and this interested me in the past.) LEF has a limited menu of tests offered but the prices are good.   Not the sort of testing that you are looking for.

Doctors control what they are willing to write requesitions for in lab testingi and what you can take for medications as most of us know.

Insurance companies as they stand now,  control a whole lot more than many people suspect regarding what they are willing to pay for for their subscribers.

I hope you have success in getting the testing that you want to have done. Louise

 

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Testing for lyme,

is very complicated. All the above mentioned tests are not helping for a final diagnosis.

If you expect lyme you need the real expert LLMD and he will let you know the labs where testing makes sense.

It is very complicated.

Otherwise you waste your money, will end up with false negatives ...

 

Yes, k23la, certainly false negative for both CPni at times and more frequently with Borrelia B. (Lyme) negative with both of these are false assuances that you do not have them.
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  • Intermtnt CAP: 02/09-02/10
  • Full MethylProtocol & LDNi 02/09
  • Off CAP: 02/10, cont LDN & MethlyProtocol support

Hi, John... I hear you... I don't believe Quest does self pay labs.  What I have personally experienced with regard to my thyroid panel testing (FT3, FT4 and TSH) is that when I pay out of pocket it's less profit for the lab.   

When I have it run through my insurance, they double the charges to my insurance company, I still end up paying about the same as it would be out-of-pocket, but it's  somewhat like double-dipping to me!

JeanneRoz

JeanneRoz ~ DXi'd w/ CPNi 4/2007; 6/07 -"officially" dx'd w/CFIDSi/FM; also: HHV6, EBVi, IBSi-C, 100 Doxyi:BIDi; 500 mg Biaxin BIDi; Tindamax Pulses, B12 shots, ERFA Dessicated Thyroid,Cortef, Iodoral 25 mg, Vit D-6,000 uni

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