27 Apr 2018

Ketogenic Diet


Hi All PaulJ on this forum introduced the idea of the ketogenic diet I find this works well for me Here is his post  practice a ketogenic diet in which you provide your body with sufficient ketone precursors every day.  Your neurons are starved of glucose by the bacteria and need an alternative.  Ketones can be made from short-chain fats and from certain amino acids, e.g. leucine and lysine. The most important step is taking 6 fluid ounces (12 tbsp) of coconut oil per day, a little every hour or two, while keeping carb intake down.


This was interesting, but why is it best to avoid pulses and grains ? I get that wheat is inflammatory and raises blood sugar, but rye does not ? Why no nuts and beans ?Is there anywhere i can read more so that i understand fully about autophagy and fasting ?

Treating PPMS with Azithromycin, Minocycline, Rifampin.

A ketogenic diet has been instrumental in curing my depression. The benefits to the brain are phenomenal. I would be surprised if there was a single person on this forum who didn't improve on it. Jesper, here is a link to a presentation by Lauren Cordain on the Paleo diet and MS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZgE-S4m3kI

Treating bipolar II depression (in remission), mild rosacea.Therapies: Ketogenic diet, NAC, niacinamide, melatonin, D3, quercetin+bromelain.May start CAP after breastfeeding.

Thank you so much for the comments.I agree with the paleo diet--which is why I struggle with the carbs. I have started with  organic coconut oil--several tablespoons three days in a row now. Also a super charged B complex that, for convenience sake, I purchased at GNC.  I do think I am seeing a reduction in the porphyria symptoms.  I was feeling tortured.  :(There is no mistaking that I have more energy and that my brain is functioning on a higher level.   I am probably 30-40 percent improved.  I am assuming it is the supplements.    Today I purchased the amino acid leucine.  I also purchased an inexpensive (as they go) ice vest to help get me through some  house projects.  I work for a good hour, rest, work, rest, work etc..  This makes for  a good and productive day for me and I am grateful for it.  I am eager to see if leucine has any favorable effect for my energy/recovery level.I  am wondering if anyone has incorporated the coconut oil into their diet and seen a reduction in the porphyria symptoms?  Mercola is such a huge coconut oil fan--especially for Alzheimers.I am looking into the ketogenic diet but am worried that the porphyria is going to make it unmanagable.THANK you to all who have so generoulsy shared their time and experiences. Katherine 

I have always done best on high protein/fats, low or no carbs since my twenties - even throughout my years on the Stratton protocol...I did this diet against the the advice of what Vanderbilt suggested, because I felt best on it. But I also know of people who get very ill on high pro/fats. low carbs.As far as iodine/ iodide, I believe in it thoroughly, but people with many health issues cannot do this easily without a lot of ill effects.  I used to get very ill when I took kelp back in the 70's. People beginning iodine/iodide MUST begin slowly, as mentioned.  I have been taking selenium since my early twenties and took that along with all the mega doses of vitamins I was used to during my years on the protocol. My high intake of antioxidants was thought by doctors to be the reason that i did not have leaky gut like so many who had stealth infections.As far as the statment that "if you feel worse on the antibiotics, it means they're working" I completely disagree with this. I can count on one hand the times I felt undesirable affects which I could attribute to the abx in the 5 years I took the protocol. As I often said, I just felt better and better while on the protocol.  One of the earliest comments I remember from Dr. Stratton's followers (and I believed the statement came from Dr. S himself) was "if you consistently seem to feel better on abx, this is a tip-off that you very likely do have Cpn."Although he writes with authority, Paul's experiences dealing with Cpn need to be taken as only one of many directions a person can go with the protocol.  I personally would not do anything different or tell anyone else to do more than what I originally did to get my count down to within normal range.  I believe that everything else is window dressing and has nothing much to do with getting rid of the organism.  As far as restoring good health and energy, I began dealing with other things such as hormones, metal toxicity, etc. once I got the Cpn down. Granted, I had always taken megadoses of vitamins since my early twenties and that didn't change while I was on the protocol.  But people need to take things as they are able, and prioritize the importance of the things they are going to change and to do if they hope to keep going for the long haul.  I say get your protocol going, adding meds "as fast as you can, and no faster" as Dr. S says, kill the beasties and THEN add what you can as you are able. It is easy to get overwhelmed financially and mentally when being told to change so much at one time.Astrodiana  

I have not heard that but Doc Mercola believes a high fat low carb junk diet keeps cancer at bay because cancers don't eat ketones  I hope I am right on this

Ketogenic diet would be impossible if you suffer flagrant porphyria 

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Doing Thibault protocol (NAC/mino/roxi/tini/nattokinase)...but considering morphing to Stratton protocol