MediTest
27 Apr 2018
Author
Sunnivara
Title

"Type 2" hypothyroidism caused by Cpn?

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I found this article rather interesting and thought others here with thyroid issues may find it interesting as well. Although it does not mention Cpn, to me it does indicate there could be a connection between Cpn and thyroid problems. It talks about how there is a "type 2" hypothyroidism where blood levels of thyroid hormones are "normal" but the body is unable to utilize them sufficiently due to cell receptor and mitochondrial malfunction. The article suggests environmental toxins are the reason for the cell malfunction.

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My daughter went on Armour about 14 months ago because of hypothyroid symptoms.  Her dosage by last spring was up to 60 mg a day.  As her health has been improved, her dosage has slowly been lowered.  She now only needs 15 mg a day and I hope in the near future that she will be off it completely.  So it seems her story backs up what this article was saying.  Thanks for sharing it. Maria

Mother of a teenage daughter with cpn infection. Symptons include migraine, muscle aches, chronic fatigue and brain fog.  Currently taking 1800mg of NAC, 200mg doxycycline, 250mg azithromycin MWF, pulsing flagyl, armour 60mg, 100mg trazodone, iron supplem

Sunni, thank you for the article.  I have 2 problems.1) my thyroid doesn't work (mulit-nodular, cysts, etc) and need to take medicine. 2) my medicine is not being absorbed at cellular level. I am on 400mgc of T3 and riding fence of going hypo.  My thyroid meds were very stable before starting protocol and have gone out of whack since starting protocol.  I can't pulse anymore b/c I go hypo.  I take caffeine pills 2 days in row and go hypo. I cant take vit D b/c I go hypo. I cant take Acyclovir for more than 4 days without going hypo. and once I go hypo, I cant seem to recover.   I've known for about 1 year that I have a problem at the cellular level and can't figure out why. I take several anti-oxidants.  the one thing that i have not done is get tested for metals.  i'm going to call MD office on Monday to request this. Thank you Sunni again for posting article and if you find anything else, please post. 

Mphs, TN. CFS, hypoT (Hashi), adrenal fatigue, hormonal inbalance. right arm neuropathy-getting better. cpn, myco, EBV, CMV, HHV-6. Cap began in 6/07. NAC 2400mg, mino 100mg bid, biaxin 500mg bid. cytomel, flagyl bid continuously.

Maria, I'm curious if your daughter's had her T4/T3 levels tested regularly during the last 14 months and if they've changed much. The odd thing about me is my levels have always been "normal" and never changed dramatically from no meds to my highest dose and back down again. TSH does change more dramatically but has still been "normal" by most lab ranges. This article gives some idea of why my symptoms could change so dramatically when blood levels of hormones do not. I'm wondering if your daughter is seeing something similar.

Sharon, sorry to here you're having trouble with your thyroid through all this. I had interpreted the article to mean abx treatment might improve thyroid function over time. But, of course, if your treatment is stirring things up, the resulting cpn flare-up could tax your system. Fighting infection does work the thyroid harder. I'm curious, why aren't you also taking a T4 med, or a combo like Armour?

HI Suni, i dont take any T4 med. My T4 instead of converting to T3 was converting to Reverse T 3.  so i'm only on T3 medicine. which has also happened after starting the protocol.  for me, something is happening at the celluar level and I gotta figure it out.   my lab work shows me extremely hyper and when I'm borderline hypo.. 

Mphs, TN. CFS, hypoT (Hashi), adrenal fatigue, hormonal inbalance. right arm neuropathy-getting better. cpn, myco, EBV, CMV, HHV-6. Cap began in 6/07. NAC 2400mg, mino 100mg bid, biaxin 500mg bid. cytomel, flagyl bid continuously.

Suni, My daughter has not had her T3/T4 levels checked recently.  We have been adjusting her Armour dosage based on her symptoms. I definitely think the article provides a good explanation of why blood tests can have "normal" results yet patients have hypo symptoms.  I think for people like you and my daugher cpn has led to type 2 hypothyroidism.  So somehow the cpn prevents the body from using the available thyroid hormone When she went on Armour her TSH was in the normal range (2.0) but her T3 free and FT4 were on the low normal side.  Her doctor decided to start her on Armour since it appeared that her thyroid needed support based on the bloodwork and her symptoms (low body temp., hair falling out,  increasingly irregular menstrual cycle).  The doctor started her at 30mg but eventually increased the dose to 60mg because her symptoms did not improve.  Sometime last summer she went back down to 30mg primarily because her menstrual cycle though regular had shortened to about 20 days. Once she dropped back to 30mg her cycles became a normal again.   She continued at 30mg until January when we finally realized that the frequent panic attacks and unexplainable anxiety she was having were  probably being caused by  too much Armour. She dropped back to 15mg and the panic episodes and anxiety have stopped.  She tried to go off Armour completely but when she did that she started having a lot of dizziness.  When she went back on Armour the dizziness stopped.  So for now she is still on Armour. I really see a parrallel between her need for thyroid support and her cpn infection.  When she was really sick she had hypothyroid symptoms.  As she has gotten better the hypo symptoms have abated thus causing her not to need as much Armour. 

Mother of a teenage daughter with cpn infection. Symptons include migraine, muscle aches, chronic fatigue and brain fog.  Currently taking 1800mg of NAC, 200mg doxycycline, 250mg azithromycin MWF, pulsing flagyl, armour 60mg, 100mg trazodone, iron supplem