27 Apr 2018

Can Vertigo be caused by CPn infection?


I am here doing CAP because I have MS and I suspect that it's caused by a CPn infection in me.We know that there are many people out there that have CPn infection but do not get MS.  There are others out there that have CPn infection but they develop entirely different ailments (many listed on our home page).The lady that I am living with has come down with vertigo.  She is becoming quite badly affected.  She has been affected by this before - many years ago.  The condition is not influenced by motion.Here's a question (more to those with medical knowledge):Should I be thinking that her con


No medical knowledge here, but yes, it can.Lots of people here have reported balance and 'the room is spinning' issues when they first begin the protocol.  I can't recall anyone whose balance issues didn't resolve on cap.Interesting you bring it up, because more than ten years ago, a co-worker's wife woke up one morning and couldn't make it to the kitchen without grabbing chairs, walls, etc.  She was totally off-balance for weeks and he had to take a leave of absence to help at home.  She was tested for loads of things (but no one knew about cpn then) and, out of frustration and desperation, her doctor gave her a bunch of antibiotics, reasoning it 'had to be' an infection, even though he couldn't find one.Within two months, she was fine.  And she remains fine, from what I hear.  Inadvertently, the doctor prescribed a combined antibiotic protocol for her.  Cool

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Although vertigo is caused by many things, it might well be related, so why not get her to do the NAC test?.................SarahA Journey through Light and Shadow

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

It's an interesting question to ask and one I've often wondered myself: Is CPn the reason for so much illness and distress in humans? It absolutely seems to manifest differently in people, that's been proven. However, since CPn is so hard to identify and most have to treat empirically, I don't know that any of us who haven't been positively diagnosed with CPn can know for sure that it is CPn.The beauty of CAP is that the cocktail is designed in such a way that it may be hitting and killing any other bacteria in our bodies that hasn't been identified or diagnosed. Do I have CPn? I don't know. Do I have Lyme? I don't know. What I do know is that I'm treating for a bacterial infection.  I'm comfortable and confident in the science, research and protocol designed for CPn, which I believe can be applied to a number of different chronic, multi-phase bacteria. And for this reason, I would encourage anyone with a chronic illness to attempt treating with CAP. Despite a lot of doctors saying antibiotics are bad for us, antibiotics can't be any worse than some of the conventional medicines they prescribe for specific ailments.And that is my two cents.

- Jennifer HopefulMS Dx 2003Rebif 2003-2007, Copaxone 2007-2011, Tysabri 2011-PresentNAC started 4.30.2013CAP started 7.24.2013: 200 mino daily, 1000 amox daily, 250 azith MWFFirst pulse 10.17.2013: 1500 metro 1 week/mont

Hi Jennifer,Oh - I agree with the possibility of CPn being the "reason for so much illness and distress in humans."  In the one - study in the "MS Cure Video" I think referred to as a "retrospective" study - of the population in a town in the south of the UK - where they didn't have any reported cases of MS until after the US sent troops for the first or second world war - staging them in that town, but then had a rash of MS cases - is very telling.  What isn't mentioned in that study - is - were there any other illnesses that also were introduced to that population?There's always the danger of the "Shiny New Hammer" syndrome, where when you first get one everything looks like a nail.  That surey doesn't mean that many things aren't in fact nails however.I believe my family - not just Rick with his MS - are infected with CPn, that it was the cause of my Dad's Reactive Arthritis or Ankylosing Spondilitis - both apparently different names for the same condition - AKA, apparently Rheumatoid Spondylitis - which one of my younger brothers also has, my chronic bronchitis and peripheral neuropathy - and possibly even some mental health issues in other family members - in all of the above CPn may well be implicated.  I think the most likley source of a new CPn infection are family members - and the specific vulnerabilities that CPn targets may well run in families too.  Maladies we think are inherited and due to faulty genes - may in many cases simply be an infection such as CPn.This sneaky little bastard - (cpn) - has had it's time in hiding, escaping the scrutiny of the human race - and very likely responsible for "much distress and illness" - has been dragged into the light, albeit not the full glare of full public awareness.  All of the folks in this forum are calling the little punk and bully out - and kicking it's stinkin' butt.  It's about time we (the human race) - get assertive with the little bastard and drive it out of existence if possible, or at the least eliminate it from the human race.  That is being and has been accomplished with more visible and virulent pathogens - it's CPn's turn!Just in the US - every year - some 24 million pounds of antibiotics (per my favorite medical firebrand - Dr. Mercola - in an article sent out today) are used to fatten cattle for the market.Tom

Proud Parent of Rick - R started CAP in Nov. 13. Small measurable improvements as of 7/14, more by 10/14.  Holding Steady in early 2017.  "I will leave no stone unturned, no theory unexamined, to help my son." Tommi


The Faroese data is very compelling evidence of an association of Cpn and MS.I had bad vertigo and peripheral neuropathy; it still comes and goes. I suspect that it is caused by secondary porphyria. B vitamin complex plus B12 helps.

D W - [Myalgia and hypertension (typically 155/95.) Began (2003) taking doxycycline and macrolide and later adding metronidazole. No medication now. Morning BP typically 110/75]

Hi David,Thank you for the clue about B vitamin complex and B12 for peripheral neuropathy.  I definitely have that - not a serious case - but I do have the fisculations (sic) - as well as the odd feelings.  It's much better now that I strictly limit gluten intake (I'm not as strict as Rick needs to be). I'm planning on doing the CAP protocol myself to see if I can both shake the chronic bronchitis - which I read is also possibly due to CPn - perhaps get some more improvement in the peripheral neuropathy - and to proactively head off furhter atherosclerosis since the CDC has recognized CPn as an "emerging pathogen implicated in atherosclerosis."  My Dad died recently (at 80) - after 3 bouts of Pneumonia - and after living 15 years after being diagnosed with Congestive Heart Failure - to be complete he drank heavily and smoked earlier in his life - which doesn't eliminate CPn as a possible co-factor in his illness and demise.Rick first though - he may be seeing early glimmers - just on the chelation for mercury and Vitamin D3 - plus whatever other supplements the good Doctor has him on - he's already reporting occassional brief moments (10 minutes at a time - fleeting and unpredictable) - of increased clarity.  He will likely start the first steps of the CAP protocol near the end of November.Thank you for correcting my reference to that retrospective study - "The Faroese data."  Out of curiousity - do you know if, in addition to MS - any data was collected in that study for other illnesses - (asthma, bronchitis, arthritis - the list from the front page) - that may have increased in that population concurrent with MS?Best & Highest Regards,Tom

Proud Parent of Rick - R started CAP in Nov. 13. Small measurable improvements as of 7/14, more by 10/14.  Holding Steady in early 2017.  "I will leave no stone unturned, no theory unexamined, to help my son." Tommi