How related are Multiple Sclerosis & Lyme Disease?

Folks,

We walked in the forest a LOT while my kids were young.  I don't know if Rick's been tested for Lyme (probably has), I don't know if the CAP protocol is sufficient to treat lyme disease.  I recall someone here wrote that the CAP protocol is effective against lyme disease, hopefully that person will chime in.

I saw this article today - :

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-michael-conner/man-dies-from-lyme-d…

The apparent "overlap" of lyme and MS - shown on two maps in color, is pretty striking.

Happy New Year to all!  And - my very best wishes and fervent prayers that each and everyone here struggling with CPN - for MS and other diseases - has as fast, smooth and complete a recovery as possible.

Tom C

I'd like to know more about this relationship too (why are CPn and Borrelia burgdorferi often diagnosed int he same person). I know here in Australia lots of people diagnosed with having Borrelia burgdorferi also often have CCSVI (defined by the obstruction of major veins adjacent to their respiratory system, thought to be likely caused by CPn).

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Doing Thibault protocol (NAC/mino/roxi/tini/nattokinase)...but considering morphing to Stratton protocol

I'm one of those who had a smoldering Cpn infection (and others) and was bitten by a tick in a local wilderness park. I never saw the tick or the bite. Never had the rash. But had found ticks on me when I came home from hiking. It was probably a tiny nymph and it bit me on the head.

this is what triggered my whole health disaster. I found DW's web site and contacted him asking for a doc in the U.S. who knew how to treat Cpn. My Lyme ELISA was negative. But that is a worthless test.

later got an accurate test from Igenex in Palo Alto, Ca. My doc told me the Cpn treatment would also kill Lyme. he was right!

Raven

Feeling 98% well-going for 100. Very low test for Cpn. CAP since 8-05 for Cpn/Mycoplasma P.,Lyme, Bartonella, Mold exposure,NAC,BHRT, MethyB12 FIR Sauna. 1-18-11 begin new treatment plan with naturopath

Hi Raven,

Thank you - for confirming what I suspected - that a CAP protocol could kill lyme.  That, and for mentioning that the lyme test you took was "worthless."  Rick says he was tested for lyme and that the test was negative.  That test was ordered by his former neurologist - who tried to force him off of his CAP protocol by withholding his Ampyra treatment.  Very closed minded.  His new Neurologist, at Stanford, is not closed minded at all.  He is in favor of Rick's CAP protocol, along with the other measures Rick is taking.

HSWebb - I agree with you that I'd like to know more about any connection between lyme and MS. 

Best & Highest Regards,

Tom C

Proud Parent of Rick - R started CAP in Nov. 13. Small measurable improvements as of 7/14, more by 10/14.  Holding Steady in early 2017.  "I will leave no stone unturned, no theory unexamined, to help my son." Tommi

I am being treated for lyme and cpn in the hopes of fending off MS,Parkinsons et al. Naturopath and Medical doc. Apparently cap does treat lyme but not quite I am finding out.

Hi MacKintosh,

Interesting - do you know which meds they use higher doses of?  Thank you!

Best & Highest Regards,

Tom C

Proud Parent of Rick - R started CAP in Nov. 13. Small measurable improvements as of 7/14, more by 10/14.  Holding Steady in early 2017.  "I will leave no stone unturned, no theory unexamined, to help my son." Tommi

Tom - if you want to learn more, the best book to read is 'Why can't I get better' by Dr Richard Horowitz.

Neuro symptoms & many health problems from 1989. NAC+all supps(04/11) CAP(05/11)

Hi Boadicea,

Thank you!  I will put the book on order.

Someone here mentioned a test used for lyme that was not accurate.  Rick says he was tested for lyme and it was negative.  I wonder now though.

Best & Hightest Regards,

Tom C

Proud Parent of Rick - R started CAP in Nov. 13. Small measurable improvements as of 7/14, more by 10/14.  Holding Steady in early 2017.  "I will leave no stone unturned, no theory unexamined, to help my son." Tommi

Regarding the CPN & Lyme:

I thought that the CPN is an opportunistic infection. so if your immune system is low (due to Lyme or ...) then any exposure to CPN either before OR after the Lyme will mean that the CPN gains a foothold. I saw a scientific paper estimating that ~80% of people aged 80 have been exposed to CPN. So perhaps we dont realise how prevalent the bug is & the fact that healthy people just shrug it off.

Hope that helps!

Mark