Hey all,

I am 2.5 months into CAPi and have already begun flagyli pulses due to the dimished responses to doxyi/roxi.

I have taken flagyl for 2 days and have not experienced any die off effects, even with doxy/roxi & NACi. Is there a slight possibility that I do not have CP?

Is it possible that the lack of response may coincide with the recent MSi diagnosis (~1yr)?

I'll continue the treatment for the 1 yr - but I would much prefer a die off effect to know that there is SOMETHING that I am treating - i'm officially nuts, i know ! :P

Hope everyone has had a lovely start to the new year and I wish you all the greatest health!



I don't recall much response to any of my pulses.  The only thing I noticed is that I tended to get very cranky and snappish a few days into the pulse. 

Don't overdo it, though; reactions tend to sneak up on some people.

The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems. Mohandas Gandhi

p.s.  Congratulations on 'breaking the duck'.  Cool

The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems. Mohandas Gandhi

Oh macky mac mac.. 

I AM cranky by nature Tongue Out jk.. however, now that you mention it - I have had an "angry" day. I will keep an eye on that and warn people I am in contact with. I am experiencing headaches and slight dizziness/spaced out-ness lol

I think I may have spoken too early haha.

I have the utmost respect for everyone that has attempted CAPi
Power 2 us! xx 



..SYMPTOM FREE 06/2012.. RRMSi< diagnosed - 01/2010 CAPi< commenced 18/11/2011 *Doxycycline 200mg *Roxythromycin 300mg *Flagyli 1200mg 3 days/month

We here are all among the very fortuate, but you may be one of the fantastic few who caught this early enough not to be knocked flat, or even have much reaction.  Consider that a very real blessing! 

The fact that you have had just a whisper of synptoms on flagyli is telling, though.  You are wise to continue - and may your slight reactions also contiue being slight.


3/9 Symptoms returning. Began 5 abxi protocol 5/9 Rifampin 600, Amox 1000, Doxyi 200, MWF Azith 250, flagyli 1000 daily. Began Sept 04 PPMSi EDSSi 6.7 Now good days EDSS 1 Mind, like parachute, work only when open. Charlie Chan  In for the duration.&am

Two days may well be to soon to experience any symptoms related to cryptic phase die off, my experience is it can be 5 - 10+ days after day 5 of the pulse. 

My thinking is that it can take that much time for the encapsulated or protected covering of the bacteria in the cryptic (called cystic with Borrelia) which is another bacterial cause of "MS like" symptoms to burst and then toxins are released and the experience of die of may ensue.

So hold your judgement for several pulses!

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