27 Apr 2018
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notasperfectasyou
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Rifampin reacts with Bioperine \ Black Pepper Extract \ Piperine???

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Many supps, not just Curcumin contain Bioperine \ Black Pepper Extract \ Piperine.  These are pretty much the same thing and they are added to supplementsi to increase the absorption of them and therefore make them more effective. Bhardwaj. Radjinder et al.

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Ah, and about piperine it also enhances bioavailability of rifampicin and also the intestinal resorbtion capacities. it seems piperine was obtained by extraction out of gingeroil and black pepper oil.

Here's the title of Inakk's link (previous post): Effect of trikatu, an Ayurvedic prescription, on the pharmacokinetic profile of rifampicin in rabbits References and further reading may be available for this article. To view references and further reading you must purchase this article. R. S. Karan, V. K. Bhargava* and S. K. Garg Department of Pharmacology, Postgraduate Institute of Medical Education and Research, Chandigarh-160012, India Received 30 March 1998; revised 8 July 1998; accepted 13 July 1998. Available online 24 March 1999.

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For type O blood types, we're to avoid black pepper - so what about this additive - avoid?

We find consultations, we learn tricks with which we deceive ourselves, but the essential thing - the way - we do not find. Listen to the river...

Hello Batgirl,

are you? I didn't know that.  I suppose that if whoever said that has decent medical qualifications, there might be something in it, but I probably eat some every day without ill-effects.  But then, I have a different blood type!

Sarah

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

The Blood Type Diet indicates black pepper on the type O avoid list (actually on avoid for all blood types...) - I use peppercorn (pepper seed) which is allowed instead of black pepper, although cheyenne pepper is on allowed too.... just wondering if the 'extract' of the black pepper is allowed or not since the seed seems to be alright ;-)

We find consultations, we learn tricks with which we deceive ourselves, but the essential thing - the way - we do not find. Listen to the river...

But Batgirl, who has written The Blood Type Diet? A genuine medical doctor or just a chiropractor?

My guess is that if black peppercorns are allowed in this diet then there is something sneaked into black pepper extract, so why not just stick with ground peppercorns?

Actually I have just verified on the Internet something I have known since i was a teenager: white and black peppercorns come from the same plant.  Black peppercorns are just left on the plant longer to ripen, which both changes the peppercorn's looks and flavour.

Sarah

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

http://www.dadamo.com/

I use the CAP for my MS since 2014, and also the BTD by research Doctor D'Adamo since 2008 for proper foods that support my immune system... sort of an holistic approach along with exercise, stress avoidance, etc.

Doctor Peter D'Adamo is a naturopathic physician who is also an author, researcher-educator, Ivesian, amateur horologist, budding software developer and air-cooled enthusiast. He is considered a world expert in glycobiology, principally the ABO (ABH) blood groups and the secretor (FUT2) polymorphisms.

We find consultations, we learn tricks with which we deceive ourselves, but the essential thing - the way - we do not find. Listen to the river...

Batgirl, when you say that you have been using CAP since 2014, does this mean that you are still taking antibiotics in 2014?  I started in August 2003 and finished nearly exactly four years later, and haven't needed to take any antibiotic since, which means that I haven't needed to spend a fortune on restorative supplements.

How much of the D'Adamo stuff do you take or put on your face?  Because it doesn't come cheap!

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

The vitamins and supplements are ongoing and will not stop - the antibiotics I do in 1-1/2 to 2 year stints, with 2 to 5 years in between, but the vitamins and supplements never cease... necessary for my many ailments (lung surgery, MS, cancer, etc.) and many not a part of CAP have been added to it to help fight more than MS/cPn.

btw - after the chemo for cancer, my cPn 'disappeared' ~ no antibodies at all: IgA, IgG, and IgM all missing now - zeroed out... apparently, per my Vanderbilt doctor, chemo is also used to treat MS in some cases.

I only use the BTD info, not any of D'Adamo products...

We find consultations, we learn tricks with which we deceive ourselves, but the essential thing - the way - we do not find. Listen to the river...

Dear Batgirl

good to know your CPn all but gone but you must be very very brave to fight off MS then cancer and all sorts of other things. It was interesting to know that efvery two years or so you still take the protocol antibiotics.

 

I also want to ask you -- i think you know my daughter in law Sonal has MS and is now wheelchair bound -- what was your experience with rifampicin if at all you took it. I was wondering whether Sonal should try. This last year her condition got worse with her right arm affected apart from both legs. Her physiotherapist didnt come because of the covid situation and all sorts of other problems added to the MS . At one point -- in April, whole famiuly including both children were down with Covid.

This diet thing is also very interesting. Maybe Sonal can do an online consultation with Dr. Adamo. Thanks for posting that link.

Keep well. It was good to hear from you.

Neena

I am 76 years old. My daughter-in-law was diagnosed with MS and we are all very keen for her to start this new antibiotic treatment. We hope to be able to do this in the next couple of weeks by finding a doctor willing to deal with any issues like reactions that may crop up. My daughter-in-law is 43 years old.

I have been an active poilitical journalist most of my life and have felt for a long time that there must be a cure out there for MS which the medical community has largely ignored. I am very excited by the Wheldon protocol.

Batgirl, how is your MS now? Has it got any better, because I remember reading about your vanishing antibodies!

Sarah

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Haven't had any MS activity since 2014. Then after chemo the cPn titrates started coming back with negative IgG, IgA and IgM. According to Dr. Sriram, chemo is used in rare cases to treat MS. In my case it was used for post cancer surgery and just happened to also kill off my cPn activity. Haven't had to use antibiotics since 2017-2018, but like I said, I still do the vit/suppl part of CAP along with a lot of additional supplements like turmeric curcumin, milk thistle, Iodine (kelp), Butyric acid, mega vit D, etc. ~ these are helping keep cancer at bay, improving my lung surgery damage, help with having no ileocecal valve (removed with tumor), being a Type O vegetarian, etc. The MS damage is permanent (numb hands with loss of dexterity, not sweating on upper left quadrant of body, numb left side of tongue/lips/mouth/chin/throat, other numb patches on my arms and chest, fatigue, anxiety, etc.), but is no longer causing relapses.

We find consultations, we learn tricks with which we deceive ourselves, but the essential thing - the way - we do not find. Listen to the river...

Oh my goodness, Batgirl, you have been through it! It seems a bit irrelevant to talk about killing off Cpn activity.....................

Sarah

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.