17 Oct 2020
Author
tuftyone
Title

Antibiotics and insomnia

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I’ve been taking doxy’ and Azi’ for nearly  a year now. I never got round to starting the Metro for varying reasons, but aim to start next week. I think doxycycline gives me terrible insomnia and I plan to drop it next week when I start the Metro. So I’ll only be taking metronidazole. I’d be grateful to hear your thoughts and opinions about that 

thank you 

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The protocol is what it is for a reason. It has all been carefully thought out. Personally, I wouldn’t mess around with it. I have had long periods of just taking two abx, not pulsing, as I struggled to tolerate the pulses. But I would not just pulse, without taking anything else. If you feel you are having difficulty with doxycycline, minocycline could be used as an alternative.

Neuro symptoms & many health problems from 1989. NAC+all supps(04/11) CAP(05/11-10/17&01/20-)

Matt, if you want to feel really bad, take metronidazole by itself: it is well known for making people feel awful. It is pulsed for a reason as you will soon find out.

Don't do it, please.

Sarah

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

If it is sleep that you are after, try some Protea. You can both buy it and read about it on Amazon.

David takes three a night but two is recommended. I dropped back to one, bit you can experiment.  Take it about twenty minutes before you want to go to sleep.

I found it about ten days ago because of the difficulty of getting melatonin, but I certainly didn't want to ask for sleeping tablets and end up addicted.

Sarah

 

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Hi Tuftyone,

I battle with horrible insomnia as well. Man I have tried everything from Valerian, Camomile, Benadryl (Diphenhydramine), Melationin, Meditation tracks, TRE, hot and cold showers, even left over vicodin from my broken ankle. Some nights nothing at all works.

Prior to antibiotics I was a super sensitive to any drugs. Never drank alcohol because I was drunk after 2 sips beer. I would cut a 25mg benadryl in half (1/8 to 1/4th the normal dose) and still sleep for over 8 hours. Never took more than 1/2 a vicodin with my broken ankle because I would be asleep all day. And I would cut a 1mg Melatoinin in half and fall right asleep.  That was BEFORE.

Now with antibiotics, I can take a full benadryl, camomile tea plus 3mg Melatoinin and add on 1/2 a vicodin and still not get to sleep ALL night.

 

So here comes disclaimer.... I am not a doctor and please check with your doctor before you try any new medications. I did find... Clemastine Fumarate.

It is an antihistamine similar to benadryl/diphenhydramine used to treat allergies and hayfever. As an antihistamine, it has the same side effect of most of the others in this drug class, and makes people very tired/sleepy. I tried it while doing the protocol because I found this article:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29029896/

     Clemastine fumarate as a remyelinating therapy for multiple    sclerosis (ReBUILD): a randomised, controlled, double-blind, crossover trial

Apparently, this antihistamine has some neuron rebuilding properties? I also read an anecdotal, non-scientific case report of a person who said they cured their MS by taking this drug. My guess is maybe it has some anti-Chlamydial properties as well??? I think I remember reading that somewhere but don't take my word for it.

Anyway, I take it occasionally to get to sleep. I take 1mg and it seems to do the trick for me. Asleep in 20 mins and sleep solid for about 7 hours. I take it hoping it is helping on two fronts.... helping me sleep, as well as helping to cure my MS. 

Recently started the Wheldon protocol and looking forward to connections as we work our way through

Hello sorry for not replying sooner. I’ve managed to fix my insomnia :) I’ve also managed to fix my restless legs which made everything worse. I’m now using an earthing sheet. I can’t believe how much difference it’s made instantly but the biggest difference has been  altering the direction in which I sleep. I’m now sleeping east to west with my head at the east end. Previously I slept north to south which is apparently the worst way to sleep! This comes from an Eastern philosophy but I have noticed that this corresponds with the rotation of the Earth, so who knows?! All I know is that it’s working for me better than anything else I’ve ever tried.

Diagnosed RRMS 1999. No DMDs or other meds. Have done TMJ correction, Candida protocol, CCSVI venoplasty procedure.

Hello Tufty, how are you getting n with your insomnia now? I am going to be brave tonight and protea again. The instructions are to start with just one tablet then start two after a couple of weeks. Both David and myself started straight off with two. David slept like a log but I had rather too realistic dreams.

Since some melatonin arrived a few days later, I went back to that. But now I will try protea again, but obeying the Instructions!

Sarah

 

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.