MediTest
20 Sep 2019
Author
Tommi
Title

Buhner Protocol Experiences...

Body

Hi Folks,

It's been some time since I've dropped by.  Rick has not been doing any protocol at all for some time, because of how he feels the protocol "damaged" his gut and his biota down there.

I'm hoping that folks can tell me about their experiences with either gentler forms of the protocols here or how to make them easier on a person's "gut" - or - share their experiences with the Buhner protocol.

Thank you...

Tommi

Comments

I also wonder herbal antibiotics. Many buhner herbs is too hard for me to find and order. Most of them are eastern herbs.    There must be some alternative Mediterranean herbs as replacement.

Tommi, the best thing is to just take doxycycline and roxithromycin for much longer before pulsing, even a year or more.  In addition take many probiotics at least two hours apart from the antibiotics.

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Wolves, there isn't necessarily an equivalent. For instance, ginseng is Chinese, and the Indian equivalent is Ashwagandha but I don't think there is a Mediterranean one.  This might be the same with the Buhner herbs.

Darren got himself better with things bought or grown in Ireland, so ask him.

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Oh, back when Mac and I took over the site and we ditched Kent! 

Well, I'm sure Darren wouldn't mind if you asked him again, but we really ought to find out more about herbs before people aren't allowed to buy anything!

Sarah

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Sarah

i wonder what the courts would have to say to anyone who argues he believes antibiotics the only chance of a cure from a deadly disease which Govt is preventing him from exploring as an option. And cases are there including yours of cure from a supposedly incurable disease.

neena

I am 76 years old. My daughter-in-law was diagnosed with MS and we are all very keen for her to start this new antibiotic treatment. We hope to be able to do this in the next couple of weeks by finding a doctor willing to deal with any issues like reactions that may crop up. My daughter-in-law is 43 years old.

I have been an active poilitical journalist most of my life and have felt for a long time that there must be a cure out there for MS which the medical community has largely ignored. I am very excited by the Wheldon protocol.

Neena, I'm afraid that there are courts and courts. With our lower courts, it would most likely depend on whether the judge has a daughter with progressive MS who has decided to take the treatment.

Most likely, judge and daughter will think that the best course is to go along with what the neurologists say though.

If you have the money to move up through the appeal system, you might eventually reach the Supreme Court and if you are very lucky, you might get to meet the president of that court, Lady Hale, famous for her magnificent spider brooch and standing up against our ghastly government.  Unfortunately, she is retiring at the end of the year.

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Sarah

yesterday I made email contact with well know British lawyer Mark Lewis who suffers from MS -- I had seen a BBC film on him trying stem cell treatment at Hadassah Israel. 

I asked whether the stem cell worked for him. He got back saying it works wonders almost immediately but then benefits fade away in a few months and he gets the treatment again. He didn't say how many times he has had this.

thrn I wrote to him giving David Wheldon website link as well as the cpn help link. Told him how you have been cured and I am trying the protocol for my daughter in law.

to that he simply asked if I was trying to help him. 

I later wondered whether he could take up this case in a court. Apparently he has a reputation for winning many difficult battles. What are your thoughts on this?

Neena

I am 76 years old. My daughter-in-law was diagnosed with MS and we are all very keen for her to start this new antibiotic treatment. We hope to be able to do this in the next couple of weeks by finding a doctor willing to deal with any issues like reactions that may crop up. My daughter-in-law is 43 years old.

I have been an active poilitical journalist most of my life and have felt for a long time that there must be a cure out there for MS which the medical community has largely ignored. I am very excited by the Wheldon protocol.

Neena, I saw that programme as well, when it was first shown, so now I also know the results!

The best thing would be for him to start the C pn treatment himself, then he would surely want to take up the case if he showed a great recovery.  I certainly would had I been a lawyer myself.  He would need access to the abx, but I guess he could afford a private GP who could be persuaded to write the prescriptions. 

What do you think?

Sarah

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Yes Sarah

i am hoping Mark Lewis will contact you. I didn't want to keep emailing him with more details as that would amount to pestering.but I did send him links for this site as well as David Wheldon website plus mentioned work done at Vanderbilt Univ.

he has been to Jerusalem for stem cells treatment more than once. Dramatic immediate improvement which then slowly fades away. I will separately forward on your email id the email I got from him.

i was thinking he could become a strong ally in this fight to get recognition ( and the right to prescription) for the Abx treatment.

neena

I am 76 years old. My daughter-in-law was diagnosed with MS and we are all very keen for her to start this new antibiotic treatment. We hope to be able to do this in the next couple of weeks by finding a doctor willing to deal with any issues like reactions that may crop up. My daughter-in-law is 43 years old.

I have been an active poilitical journalist most of my life and have felt for a long time that there must be a cure out there for MS which the medical community has largely ignored. I am very excited by the Wheldon protocol.

Hi Everyone,

Yesterday I was interviewed on Radio NLive, Northampton. Here's the link: https://soundcloud.com/user-864402297/destress-with-dee-021019?fbclid=IwAR0U-kwg4G1QlkvFCPBnMJ46lSqlgfJAhDycVsfM-rf2LURcqlH7Q8DAQwM

I speak \at the following times:

17.00 - 22.00
25.30 - 36.00
40.35 - 46.50

Sarah, I apologise: I mispronounced your name. I could try and blame it on the NZ accent, but it was pretty strong even for me. 

xx

Elizabeth Anne

Hi Everyone,

I tried to post this and failed, so if this is the second copy of this. that's why

https://soundcloud.com/user-864402297/destress-with-dee-021019

This was me, yesterday afternoon in sections 17.00 - 22.00; 25.30 - 36.00; 40.25 - 46.50

I hope you can understand the NZ accent.

Sarah, I mispronounced your name, sorry. "Langlands" not Longlands. Jan, I mentioned you, not by name, but there you are.
My 'friend in India' has emigrated to Ireland. I didn't mention half the wonderful people (such as Neena) with the tremendous advice but I did plug the site. 

Best wishes,
Lizzie
 

Elizabeth Anne

D W

You tell your story well, Lizzie. There are numerous parallels between your illness and Sarah's. Thanks for mentioning the catalyst programme. (My word, what a clown that neurologist was when interviewed by Maryanne, dismissing science without looking at the evidence.)

D W - [Myalgia and hypertension (typically 155/95.) Began (2003) taking doxycycline and macrolide and later adding metronidazole. No medication now. Morning BP typically 110/75]

It was a great way to start my day listening to you talk on the radio Lizzie, about your personal story dealing with MS. Much of it was so familiar to me and that's what made me smile. That first diagnosis shock, then the frustration from ignorant doctors (like the expert neurologist that David and Sarah dealt with). All leading us to his brilliant research and Stratton's work. The large balloon of anger and frustration I have carried around for so long was deflated by your radio appearance and all that I have learned from this website. Hence I say with a LARGE smile, thank you and all CPNHelp members!

I am a retired guitar repair/restorer after 35 years. I live in Colorado and am wanting to now restore my health!

Lizzie, what an excellent talk! I shall even forgive your name slip for that. If even Christopher in Colorado has replied already it was well worth doing.

Sarah

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Thanks Sarah and again to Lizzie. The more international press to spread the news will certainly move the ball forward. I just did my 1st pulse yesterday and I needed a good start to my day here in Colorado!

Christopher

I am a retired guitar repair/restorer after 35 years. I live in Colorado and am wanting to now restore my health!

Hi Lizzie

just listened to your radio talk. Brilliant. So good to hear your voice and that you can now walk four or five miles! Hope your radio show will reach out to people with MS and other horrid medical issues related to CPN. Your reference to this site came out clearly.

Are you still in Britain or in Spain? Do keep in touch.

Neena

I am 76 years old. My daughter-in-law was diagnosed with MS and we are all very keen for her to start this new antibiotic treatment. We hope to be able to do this in the next couple of weeks by finding a doctor willing to deal with any issues like reactions that may crop up. My daughter-in-law is 43 years old.

I have been an active poilitical journalist most of my life and have felt for a long time that there must be a cure out there for MS which the medical community has largely ignored. I am very excited by the Wheldon protocol.

Hi Neena,

Thank you. We’re still in Northampton— we are putting the apartment/flat on the market next week. Once we’ve sold it, we’ll leave. The housing market is a bit odd right now so I might be here for a bit. 

Adios! xx Lizzie 

Elizabeth Anne

Hi 

I will pull together a list of what I took and email it here..... 

sorry been so busy of late that I had no time to check up on ppl here

regards

D

The Greatest Risk of all is Not taking the Risk...

Oh, thank you Darren: that would be very useful.

Isn't it nice to be able to be busy again!  Sarah

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.