11 Jun 2019

Good news ...and not so good news


Well I’ve had a positive result for CPN. I convinced my gp to take the bloods for me to send to a German lab. He said last year that he wouldn’t be able to prescribe the abx for me if it turned out positive though and I’m due to see a different doctor who may be more open to things (the practice manager lives next door to me and suggested this doctor). 

The problem I have is that I’m becoming increasingly sensitive to all chemicals and this would explain the tachycardia I experienced last year when taking the abx from India.


I wouldn't take ABx from India. You don't know for sure what is in it. Don't you have Lyme doctors in UK? They often are familiar with long term combined ABx.

Markus, many abx prescribed in this country are made in India.

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Sarah, I know this, as most medicine in the pharmacy comes from countries like India. But it goes the "right" way with quality checks and so on. I think self-buy pharmacies might deal with illegal stuff and poor or no quality checks. I suppose self buy pharmacy is illegal in our countries - isn't it?

I told tuftyone the name of my doctor in Germany. From London it's per flight 1 hour or so and then from the airport to the doctor 1,5 hour. So if he saw the doctor once, he would do the follow up via email contact in the future. I would prefer it this way. But you need money for flight, one night in hotel and money for the doctor and maybe for additional labs. So tuftyone has to make his own decision if that's worth for him.

Markus, some do, I know, but I only give addresses from Kosher places. In both my country and yours, I thought, we can buy stuff online and we receive it on payment of customs checks, which wouldn't happen with illegal stuff.

That aside, I am very glad that you gave Tufty the doctor's address, so that he can decide which way to go.  May I point other people in your direction for the same information?


Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Sarah, I'll write you a PN with the address of my doctor, so you can give it to whom you want. He's specialised in Lyme and co-infections and very often uses the Wheldon protocol anyway (although he has probably never heard of DW, but came to the same conclusions like David regarding persisting infections). My doctor has many patients from different european countries. Once I met a patient from London in the waiting room, it seems not so a huge travel, if you take one night in Germany. Some stay for weeks to do iv-antibiotics for the first and later switch to oral. That's useful in Lyme disease but I think you don't need it in case of Cpn.

Maybe interesting to know, we have a very good lab in Germany for immunological and infectious stuff called "IMD Berlin". You can send blood from other countries as well, that's were tuftyone did his testing (and his test came back positive - he showed me).

If someone thinks to go to my doctor, you can contact me via PN or email. I can point you to a cheap hotel (50 €/night) right next to the city hospital. I can tell you also how you come from the airport to the doctor.

Dear Markus,

I live in India and use India made medicines. Let me assure you for whatever it is worth, India made antibiotics very safe. Our pharma industry is top class and our medical facilities also world class although with this big populatipon everything in short supply -- doctors hospital beds and so on.

Sarah will also tell you many have done the Wheldon protocol using antibiotics from India and as far as I know from this site, no one had any problems with the quality of the medicines.

Of course if you can get the stuff you need locally, nothing like it.



I am 76 years old. My daughter-in-law was diagnosed with MS and we are all very keen for her to start this new antibiotic treatment. We hope to be able to do this in the next couple of weeks by finding a doctor willing to deal with any issues like reactions that may crop up. My daughter-in-law is 43 years old.

I have been an active poilitical journalist most of my life and have felt for a long time that there must be a cure out there for MS which the medical community has largely ignored. I am very excited by the Wheldon protocol.

No, Markus, unfortunately we don’t have Lyme doctors who prescribe abx in the UK.  People have to travel overseas, or self treat, or try alternative treatments or remain ill.

Neuro symptoms & many health problems from 1989. NAC+all supps(04/11) CAP(05/11-10/17)