MediTest
Submitted by Sarah on Sat, 2019-04-27 15:29

In 2012, Maryanne Demasi, who worked at the time for ABC television, came to England to do a series of half hour science programmes. Here is one, involving Drs David Wheldon and Paul Thibault talking about multiple sclerosis:

Catalyst and Multiple Sclerosis.

Look out for the spotty Australian neurologist: you can almost see what Maryanne is thinking! 

 

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Great to have easy access to this now! Just a crazy thought.. 

Do you think it might be a good idea to pitch to do a follow up film of you guys having achieved success ridding MS already? Might be an interest out there plus it'll show more than a pure clinical trial result? 

Just a thought from a newbie..💖

Kiki

also a few more successes like RICA and others willing to publicise their stories could be roped in. That would be excellent.

I have already told a number of people suffering from MS about this site here in New Delhi. But something needs to be done more concerted with possibility of better effect.

Neena

I am 76 years old. My daughter-in-law was diagnosed with MS and we are all very keen for her to start this new antibiotic treatment. We hope to be able to do this in the next couple of weeks by finding a doctor willing to deal with any issues like reactions that may crop up. My daughter-in-law is 43 years old.

I have been an active poilitical journalist most of my life and have felt for a long time that there must be a cure out there for MS which the medical community has largely ignored. I am very excited by the Wheldon protocol.

Trouble is, Kiki, Catalyst is no more: ABC stopped the programme because of a disagreement with Maryanne Demasi about statins. She did a two week slot about them being overprescribed. Big Pharma said that too many people stopped taking them and so people would die. Nobody did for that reason, but Big Pharma were losing money.

It would, to my mind, show more than a clinical trial result, and clinical trials should have more proof than mere empirical evidence!

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Sarah

sometime ago BBC had done a programme on some Israeli stem cell trials with details of a British lawyer who participated in that trial. I was wondering if BBC would do a film on you and David Wheldon maybe plus Dr Stratton?

worth finding out. I feel so angry that this cure was there and neurologists the world over did nothing about it and let people loose control of their lives, even die!

Neena

I am 76 years old. My daughter-in-law was diagnosed with MS and we are all very keen for her to start this new antibiotic treatment. We hope to be able to do this in the next couple of weeks by finding a doctor willing to deal with any issues like reactions that may crop up. My daughter-in-law is 43 years old.

I have been an active poilitical journalist most of my life and have felt for a long time that there must be a cure out there for MS which the medical community has largely ignored. I am very excited by the Wheldon protocol.

Neena, I have thought about this several times, but I'm afraid that stem cell treatments is about as far from the usual thoughts about MS as you will get with the BBC. Even with Australian ABC, our programme was the start of Maryanne Demasi's fall, with the two hour programme about statins being the end.
Auto-immunity is the all with MS these days. It has been that way since David was a student and medicine doesn't change quickly!

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Yes you maybe right. But it is an absolute scandal. I just by chance saw the U tube featuring David Wheldon. Otherwise hundreds and thousands of people condemned to live and die as dependents. LIves wasted.

Terrible. Why not give this a try even if neurologists dont want to believe in it. Give people a chance, especially those who have total disability staring them in the face.

Neena

I am 76 years old. My daughter-in-law was diagnosed with MS and we are all very keen for her to start this new antibiotic treatment. We hope to be able to do this in the next couple of weeks by finding a doctor willing to deal with any issues like reactions that may crop up. My daughter-in-law is 43 years old.

I have been an active poilitical journalist most of my life and have felt for a long time that there must be a cure out there for MS which the medical community has largely ignored. I am very excited by the Wheldon protocol.

Neena, IT IS a scandal, since the medicine works out so comparatively inexpensive and has so few side-effects compared to something like Camparh, o e of the rare side-effects of which may be death.

MS was thought to have an infective cause until just before I was born, but nobody knew about C pn then: it was thought just to cause a walking pneumonia. 

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Sarah

I was wondering whether the CPn help website name could be changed to include autoimmune as many more people with that problem would google search autoimmune or MS or rheumatoid arthritis, but autoimmune covers several such diseases for which abx CAP possible cure.

This site is so useful that anyone with a problem should be able to google and find it unless of course thousands of articles websites have autoimmune word in it and this site would be lost in that jungle.

Neena

I am 76 years old. My daughter-in-law was diagnosed with MS and we are all very keen for her to start this new antibiotic treatment. We hope to be able to do this in the next couple of weeks by finding a doctor willing to deal with any issues like reactions that may crop up. My daughter-in-law is 43 years old.

I have been an active poilitical journalist most of my life and have felt for a long time that there must be a cure out there for MS which the medical community has largely ignored. I am very excited by the Wheldon protocol.

Shame as meanwhile people like me will only find this route kind of hap hazardly. I still don't know my outcome so may be jumping the gun but with high hopes my thinking still goes to share with others💖

Kiki

Now that Kiki you would have completed second pulse are you feeling better? Do share your thoughts. And keep up hopes high for I think some started feeling the benefit about almost a year! Am I correct on that Sarah?

Neena

I am 76 years old. My daughter-in-law was diagnosed with MS and we are all very keen for her to start this new antibiotic treatment. We hope to be able to do this in the next couple of weeks by finding a doctor willing to deal with any issues like reactions that may crop up. My daughter-in-law is 43 years old.

I have been an active poilitical journalist most of my life and have felt for a long time that there must be a cure out there for MS which the medical community has largely ignored. I am very excited by the Wheldon protocol.

Also, bear in mind Kiki, that this was filmed in 2012, five years after I had finished taking antibiotics and nine years after I first started. Throughout that time, I haven't exactly sat quietly and neither has MacKintosh and others, but we have been much ridiculed by not only neurologists but by members of various MS forums. I am sure that Mac would tell you about the treatment she received from more an American site whose name I forget, but the British MS Society brought out their MS mavens in force for me.  They not only thought I had it all wrong, but assumed that David was shamelessly making money out of people with MS.

I have found more real interest from people on this site than on any site before, over the last few months and going back maybe a year.

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

I know Im just new on here and very sure yous all been properly at it sharing around ! Its frustrating how majority of folks with diagnosis might not find you easily thats all. My initial contact with you Sarah was me really shooting for the stars and hoping of a possible connection tho not sure if the email I found was in use anymore.

So pleased when that worked out🙏🙏💖

I keep thinking about the spotty neurologist on the Catalyst programme, talking about 'solid science' and 'evidence based medicine.'

I actually agree with him about both, but to my mind the evidence  that my illness was completely pulled back when I took a long course of certain antibiotics is my evidence.

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Totally agree. Even in scientific trials they often do with them with a dozen or two patients giving placebos to half of them _- so unfair to them. They take years, spend tons of money and never come out with anything on time to make a difference to lives of people already devastated with disease. Actual evidence of someone cured is better scientific evidence to my mind. And in your case you have MRIs before and after. What better proof?-

Neena

I am 76 years old. My daughter-in-law was diagnosed with MS and we are all very keen for her to start this new antibiotic treatment. We hope to be able to do this in the next couple of weeks by finding a doctor willing to deal with any issues like reactions that may crop up. My daughter-in-law is 43 years old.

I have been an active poilitical journalist most of my life and have felt for a long time that there must be a cure out there for MS which the medical community has largely ignored. I am very excited by the Wheldon protocol.

Then the neurologist refuses to look at the mris because he didn't order them!

The man is too tied up with Campath, which has now turned out to be not just another failure,  but probably the worst treatment for MS ever.

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

A couple of points that has occurred to me whilst reading this thread.

Firstly, me posting a YouTube link is fine. In terms of having this link as part of an archive, it is less of a good idea. If that particular copy of The Catalyst episode is taken down from YouTube the link is dead.  I would suggest actually downloading and saving the video using an app called Snap Tube. Save the video in your own server and post a link to it.

Secondly, I noticed comments regarding statins. I am aware that my local hospital is running a trial of very high-dose statins as a treatment for MS. A couple of people that I know are actually on the trial.

😊

G.

“Don't believe everything you read on the internet.”

―    Abraham Lincoln

I agree about the Catalyst episode, Supa. I would like to see it hosted on this site, so that sharing the link brings people here, rather than taking them to YouTube.

Neuro symptoms & many health problems from 1989. NAC+all supps(04/11) CAP(05/11-10/17)

I will put it on one of my sites because there is no space here: I have a disc of the show given to us by Maryanne Demasi.  I will do this quite soon because I know we are likely to remain the sole repository  of that show.

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Pity we can’t have it on the site here. I share the broadcast with a lot of people who know nothing about Cpn, so it would be a good way to bring them to this site. It is in the homepage of the cpnhelplite site.

Neuro symptoms & many health problems from 1989. NAC+all supps(04/11) CAP(05/11-10/17)

Maybe, but it will take up far too much space here so I don't want to risk the troubles we had before, although I am not Kent.

Of course, if you don't mind losing all the stuff saved from the forum...............

 

 

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

D W

I thought about putting the Catalyst documentary on my site ( www.davidwheldon.co.uk ) until I realized that that one file would require as much space as the rest of the site combined. (Incidentally, I have been given an entry in The Science Fiction Encyclopaedia.  That's pleasing.)

D W - [Myalgia and hypertension (typically 155/95.) Began (2003) taking doxycycline and macrolide and later adding metronidazole. No medication now. Morning BP typically 110/75]

By next week a permanent link to the programme which can only be taken off by me, will be on this site.

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Sarah

absolutely great news

Neena

I am 76 years old. My daughter-in-law was diagnosed with MS and we are all very keen for her to start this new antibiotic treatment. We hope to be able to do this in the next couple of weeks by finding a doctor willing to deal with any issues like reactions that may crop up. My daughter-in-law is 43 years old.

I have been an active poilitical journalist most of my life and have felt for a long time that there must be a cure out there for MS which the medical community has largely ignored. I am very excited by the Wheldon protocol.

The Catalyst video itself does not have to actually be saved on the cpnhelp server, Sarah. It could be on a server anywhere with a link posted here (so long as you have the control of it where it is actually saved). My caution was about the fact that a YouTube linked video can be taken down at any time.

Sarah, do you remember that I once sent you a link to 3 minute clip of DashCam footage from the top of Swansea travelling down the hill?  All I sent you was a link to my Google drive where I had uploaded the video to. Admittedly, 3 minutes is different from 15 minutes. Perhaps it would work though.

😊

G.

“Don't believe everything you read on the internet.”

―    Abraham Lincoln

But Glenn, that is what I am going to do, on the site I use for storage.

And Bo, I think we have a transcript as well.

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

 

(Edited post)

Here is the catalyst video saved on my Dropbox:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ozm3h669a6551j6/MS%20Cure_%20Can%20Multiple%2…

 

I downloaded it using snap tube in less than 30 seconds. It is only about 80mb anyway.

 

And what else have I just discovered?  We can now paste to this site's pages whilst using Android. HALLELUJAH! 🎈🎈🎈🎈. There must have been some work done by the Pink technical team 😀

G.

“Don't believe everything you read on the internet.”

―    Abraham Lincoln

Not able to view the video, unfortunately. It made me sign in to Google, which I reluctantly did, but then said I need permission. I’m not sure giving out that link is going to work or bring people to this site.

Neuro symptoms & many health problems from 1989. NAC+all supps(04/11) CAP(05/11-10/17)

Hi all / boadicea

great the video is here! hope the link will work even when u tube takes it down

Neena

I am 76 years old. My daughter-in-law was diagnosed with MS and we are all very keen for her to start this new antibiotic treatment. We hope to be able to do this in the next couple of weeks by finding a doctor willing to deal with any issues like reactions that may crop up. My daughter-in-law is 43 years old.

I have been an active poilitical journalist most of my life and have felt for a long time that there must be a cure out there for MS which the medical community has largely ignored. I am very excited by the Wheldon protocol.

Neena, if I put up the link it will certainly work because I have the dvd given to us when we did the filming and. I own the space where I will put it.

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Dear Sarah

wonderful. Yes Supaguy or someone else put the link on this website but it needs to be there on the internet separately. Also it should come up on a google search easily with words like MS possible cure. Not many know about CPn.

We were lucky that by chance saw the u tube and not so lucky since we did nt come across it earlier when Sonal was in a better state.

Thanks thanks for everything

Neena

I am 76 years old. My daughter-in-law was diagnosed with MS and we are all very keen for her to start this new antibiotic treatment. We hope to be able to do this in the next couple of weeks by finding a doctor willing to deal with any issues like reactions that may crop up. My daughter-in-law is 43 years old.

I have been an active poilitical journalist most of my life and have felt for a long time that there must be a cure out there for MS which the medical community has largely ignored. I am very excited by the Wheldon protocol.

Bo, cpnhelplite is using YouTube, as we will do when I decide where to put it. Or at least they were using YouTube!

However, when I have uploaded the disk to my server, we can post that and also let cpnhelplite use it, if they need to, but they might have been given a disk by Thibault.

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Boadicea , if you look at the original post in this thread, you will see that YouTube has gone rather quiet, so I will only put it in a better place on this site for now and save my dvd until really needed.

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

As from today, May 29th, you will find the Catalyst MS episode on our home page.

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

That's great, Sarah.  Brilliant work.  Very well done.  It's a great resource to be able to direct people to and good that it will now bring them to this site.

Neuro symptoms & many health problems from 1989. NAC+all supps(04/11) CAP(05/11-10/17)

Bo, it's taken from YouTube but as soon as I decide where best to put it, I will put it on some of my spare space.

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Hi Bo!

😊

I get the option in bold to sign up to Dropbox or, underneath, more faintly written, is the option to view in Chrome. Click the option to continue to website.

 

Anyone pasting that lengthy link into the address bar at the top of their browser will go straight to it.

😊

G.

“Don't believe everything you read on the internet.”

―    Abraham Lincoln

Glenn, I presume you got the video from YouTube: later this week, I am going to make a link either to that or the original ABC one which I have about a foot away from me.  Maryanne Demasi gave it to us after we did the filming.  I will probably use that one, because nobody will be able to take it down.

A couple of site things to do first though!  Spacing for one, so that people who use their phones don't end up with posts on long threads getting thinner and thinner.  I seem to remember that you mentioned it once!

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

OK, would you rather I gave the site to you two?

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

And that was a rhetorical question!

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Bite your tongue, Sarah. The site is still working itself out; no giving it away to anyone!

The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems. Mohandas Gandhi

Mac, there is no way I am giving the site to anyone:I was just annoyed at the talk which now looks as though bits have been edited.

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Besides, our sister site is a static site without a forum for discussions.

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Nothing edited by me. Perhaps, though, best I just keep quiet when I find a link doesn’t work...

Neuro symptoms & many health problems from 1989. NAC+all supps(04/11) CAP(05/11-10/17)

Bo, what I would like from you is your Patient Story, but then I would like one from Mac also!

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.