MediTest
Submitted by Sarah on Sat, 2019-04-27 15:29

In 2012, Maryanne Demasi, who worked at the time for ABC television, came to England to do a series of half hour science programmes. Here is one, involving Drs David Wheldon and Paul Thibault talking about multiple sclerosis:

Catalyst and Multiple Sclerosis.

Look out for the spotty Australian neurologist: you can almost see what Maryanne is thinking! 

 

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Sarah

A small point. Can Doxi and Roxy be taken together in the morning as you have suggested somewhere? That is 200 mg Doxi and 300 mg Roxi all together?

And with food without food? some have suggested certainly not with dairy or probiotics as it makes the abx less effective.

Please clarify. It is bothering me that Sonal maybe taking the meds the wrong way. She is taking abs in two doses morning and evening with food.

Neena

I am 76 years old. My daughter-in-law was diagnosed with MS and we are all very keen for her to start this new antibiotic treatment. We hope to be able to do this in the next couple of weeks by finding a doctor willing to deal with any issues like reactions that may crop up. My daughter-in-law is 43 years old.

I have been an active poilitical journalist most of my life and have felt for a long time that there must be a cure out there for MS which the medical community has largely ignored. I am very excited by the Wheldon protocol.

Hi Neena

Kiki here. Please do listen to Sarahs advice firstly. I just wanted to say that I only took doxy and roxy in 2 dosages per day for the 1st week and once I saw/felt that I coped with it fine then I started to take both doxy and roxy full dosages in one shortly after a small breakfast every day. And it's been like that and fine ever since. Do make sure Sonal stays upright ie not lying down for the first 30mins/1 hr after having taken meds.

I wait 2 hrs before taking probiotics, calcium, yoghurts  and other supplement tho as not because abx is compromised- it's rather the other way around where the probiotics will be wasted for nothing and you would have wasted the money getting them and effort taking them.

Kiki

Hi Neena,

I was the same as Kiki. I started on half doxy then full after a couple of weeks, then added Azithromycin. I waited 3 months before the first pulse, and now I'm in the middle of the 3rd pulse. I'm almost 6 months into it. Heck! I've taken Sarah's advice every step of the way.

Kiki and I are pretty much at the same stage. 
Cheers,

Lizzie

Elizabeth Anne

Hi Kiki,

Day four of 3rd pulse, and it seems okay so far!
All my 'little' peripheral problems seem to have gone away. It's just walking that's still a problem.
This last weekend though, I noticed a real improvement, I thought. Still not brilliant, but it seemed a bit better.

How's it going with you?
xx

Elizabeth Anne

2nd day of 3rd pulse today. Ive managed to combine a little heatwave with period and perimenopausal symptoms with this pulse so its hitting me triple whammy style haha! I do like a challenge I must say🤣

Physically still sameish in my eyes but energy wise Im so much more with it and can get more things done before resting up. I eat and drink lots of water with gusto now compared to before. My willful doer personality trait has returned from the apathy I felt at the beginning of the year and start of protocol. Deffo inner changes first from observance. Just yesterday on day 1 of pulse I felt the warrior spirit again visualising the Tini shooting Cpn pests down a la pinball arcade game machine- boom boom ping ping pong👊🔔🎰😜💪🔔

Made me laugh out loud! So here's to round 3 ding dong!

Kiki🔔💖

What excellent news, both of you!!

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Kiki and Lizzie,

yes Sarah mentioned she took Doxy Roxi all at one ago. From today Sonal has started the same instead of two separate doses. As Sarah said makes life easier as the main medicine is in you in the morning and the rest of day supplements whenever.

Thanks, all of you have been so helpful. It is just that none of us being doctors one doesnt know what to do when and whether splitting doses or taking with food will dilute the effect! One wants to do the best.

take care

Neena,

I am 76 years old. My daughter-in-law was diagnosed with MS and we are all very keen for her to start this new antibiotic treatment. We hope to be able to do this in the next couple of weeks by finding a doctor willing to deal with any issues like reactions that may crop up. My daughter-in-law is 43 years old.

I have been an active poilitical journalist most of my life and have felt for a long time that there must be a cure out there for MS which the medical community has largely ignored. I am very excited by the Wheldon protocol.

Neena, at first I split both abx in two, but took both at the same time. Eventually I took the whole lot together.

Roxi you can eat something or not, as you wish, but Doxy must not be taken on an empty stomach because it could rot the oesophagus lining.

Never take any antibiotic with probiotics though: keep them two hours apart.

And listen to Kiki's add on bits, which I forgot to mention! 

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Sarah

today Sonal told me she took all Doxi and Roxi at one go in the mirning. so far so good. Yes it will make life simpler for her for once the children come back from school she has her hands and her head full of their stuff their needs their homework.

You have been simply wonderful

Neena

I am 76 years old. My daughter-in-law was diagnosed with MS and we are all very keen for her to start this new antibiotic treatment. We hope to be able to do this in the next couple of weeks by finding a doctor willing to deal with any issues like reactions that may crop up. My daughter-in-law is 43 years old.

I have been an active poilitical journalist most of my life and have felt for a long time that there must be a cure out there for MS which the medical community has largely ignored. I am very excited by the Wheldon protocol.

Hi Sarah,

I am taking the full doses of Doxycycline and Roxithromycin, but I take half in the morning and half 12 hours later (6 am and 6 pm).  And now that I am Pulsing, I take the Tinidazole about 20 minutes after swallowing the Doxy + Roxi ... just to not have a lot on my stomach all at once.

Does the half-life of each drug matter in the dosing everything all at once?  I am trying to keep a steady (minimal) dose of the ABs in my body at all times.  Is it better to take the full doses once a day?  

Thanks,

Jan

56 y.o. with possible dual diagnoses that I am working to confirm this year: Ankylosing Spondylitis and Scleroderma, and minor Psoriasis.

Jan, I took to taking all the dose in one go, because it makes life easier. Eventually I did this even when not pulsing. Asking David, he said this was fine because we were taking long term abx, so there was always something there!

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

I really appreciate you writing back.  I spend so much time figuring out when to take stuff.... And it will be fantastic to take the ABs all at once!

One more quick question:  Did you have any trouble with the full dose all at once?  Did you take a few days to build up?

Thanks again,

Jan

56 y.o. with possible dual diagnoses that I am working to confirm this year: Ankylosing Spondylitis and Scleroderma, and minor Psoriasis.