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15 Jan 2019
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ElizabethAnne
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My renaissance, starting January 2019

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I ordered a 3-month supply of the Wheldon Protocol from India, via my Indian neighbour. 

It arrived today (£35 for Doxycycline, Azythromycin and Metronidazole) and I've taken the first 100mg of Doxycyline. It is extremely exciting. I told a friend about this and it turns out her sister had a 3-month prescription of Doxy for a skin condition, and her mysterious aching muscles got better as well.

Onwards!

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Hah, doxycycline the wonder drug!

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Good luck to you, but don't you dare start on metronidazole until after three months!

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Hello,

I've been told it's a good idea to take probiotics. Any suggestions for this?  Yakult from the supermarket?
Many thanks,
Elizabeth

Elizabeth Anne

Saccharomyces Boulardii + MOS which I buy from Amazon is a good starter, because it doesn't need to be refrigerated.  Kefir and yogurt so long as they are live are also very good.  You must remember that they won't work as a probiotic unless you take them at least two hours apart from the antibiotics!

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Good morning,

I took my first Doxycycline tablet just yesterday at midday, and I have seen some big differences since getting up this morning.

1. My knee is not sore (I dislocated my knee cap a couple of years ago, and it's been a bit painful ever since, even after physio).
2. I can use my right hand again. My writing is still a bit messy but much improved, and I did up my underwear and buttons without thinking about it. 

Ta da!

Elizabeth Anne

Good afternoon, I don't want to be a kill-joy, but I doubt that what you experienced today will last, although it will come back and eventually it will come back to stay!Talking with many people's experience here.

What happens is that as soon as you start taking doxycycline, the germs are held is stasis, so can't reproduce and make any more cpns or whatever else you are carrying around that can be treated with doxy.

A long time later they will die and float around your bloodstream for a while, but this stage can be hastened by using metronidazole or tinidazole, but the reason for not starting this stage for three months, is that it could hit you hard. Leaving it a while, quite a bit of the cpn will undergo a natural death, lessening the number to be assassinated.

Vanderbilt made a big mistake in using metronidazole right from the start in their one and only trial. Far too many people couldn't stand it and dropped out, so the trial was stopped.  The neurologist in charge admits that David has shown much more success in his MS treatment, but seems reluctant to admit that it is because he doesn't rush people into it.

I started my third antibiotic after three months and did a full five days at full dose, but some people take far longer and have to gradually build up to it.  If I had started earlier, I would more than likely have had more difficulties.

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Hello,

I seem to have had no adverse reactions from taking 100 mg Doxycycline + Azithromycin 250 on alternative days.
Is it too soon to increase the Doxy to 200 mg next week? This is just a week after my first tablet. Is that too soon?
I am taking the advice not to start the Metronidazole for 3 months.

Thanks for all the very helpful comments. I really want to get this cursed CPn out of my system as soon as possible so the healing can begin. I'm an impatient person, apparently...

Thank you!
Elizabeth

 

 

Elizabeth Anne

If you are feeling fine, I would be inclined to add the second dose of doxy. Go by how you feel. You can easily ease off again if it does become too much, but it sounds as though you are doing brilliantly. I wasn’t so lucky, and had horrendous nausea from doxy for the first 4 months!  Don’t forget to take probiotics at least a couple of hours after your abx.

Neuro symptoms & many health problems from 1989. NAC+all supps(04/11) CAP(05/11-10/17)

Elizabeth, I started doxycycline at full dose from day one, then roxithromycin at full dose as soon as it arrived from France. I think some people can cope with taking the stuff better than others, so if you feel happy with it, take doxy at the full dose.

I was just warning you to hold back on metronidazole because it is the actual killer, rather than the bacteriostatic.  Leaving it for three months will make this easier I hope.

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Hi there everyone,

Well, it's been five days, incl today, since I started 200 mg + Azythromycin, and I have not had any side effects so far.
In fact, I feel great. I'm sleeping really well. Oh, and I'm not drinking at all, so maybe that's why? Ha ha!

Another change; I've mentioned before that was diagnosed when I was in my mid 20's, but didn't really tell anybody. I asked my friends to keep it quiet. I'm not sure why but I think it was because I was worried people would think I was weak and couldn't do things and I would be left out. And anyway the symptoms went away for 10 years or so. 
Fast forward to the Wheldon discovery:
Last Tuesday morning I was at a business networking event where we were all asked what was our biggest project for 2019. I didn't know some of the people there very well, but I told them all about it. People applauded...
This afternoon I was in a meeting with a business prospect and was drawing her a diagram. I apologised for my bad handwriting and explained it was because I have MS and can't always hold a pen very well. It's like a little sense of liberation in a way.

I'm getting evangelical but I know I need to hold fire until I have a bit more than 2 weeks of doxy to talk about!
Did anyone else here read about the soldier who is suing the MOD? He contracted some ghastly CPN-type bug in Afghanistan and now has dreadful Chronic Fatigue syndrome. He was not treated for it at the time, when it was treatable, because he was told it would interfere with his anti-malarial drugs. He is suing for money but said he would give that up if he could just walk again.
I wanted to get in touch with his lawyers to tell them about CPnHelp. It really struck home when a doctor was interviewed who said he couldn't understand why the poor soldier hadn't been given Doxycycline --  an effective anti-malarial medicine as well as an antibactericide. But now it was too late. But we know better. 
What do you think, Sarah? I could send a link Dr Wheldon's information.

Let me know?

Adios, amigos!

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Anne

Doxy is the sun sensitive one... as far as my move from 100mg once to twice a day on my second ABx stint, no real change noted except a bit more stressful with the empty stomach requirement (sez recommendation, but really important ~ so, requirement... no food two hrs before / one hour after dose.

Besides fighting MS, I ALSO had a few unexpected benefits... my use of a walking cane for my left knee went away as the knee just got better - probably a nice little Cpn bacteria inflammation going on that got destroyed. Also, they say periodontal disease is irreversable, but refuse to test for the bacteria causing the inflammation and instead treat it blindly :-\ 'pockets' went from 7's, 9's, can't find the bottom - to a few 3's, and one or two 5's! Redness/bleeding extinct. Even my chronic hip pain seems to have almost forgotten me...

We find consultations, we learn tricks with which we deceive ourselves, but the essential thing - the way - we do not find. Listen to the river...

Hi Batgirl,

As well as a sore left knee, I had tendinitis on my right, foot-drop leg. It's gone. Before I would have to take ibuprofen before venturing out on my daily exercise (hobbling for a mile or two).

However the weakness in my right hand is back.

Onwards!

Elizabeth Anne

Hey Bat Girl ...

We've both been doing this stuff a fair while now. I've just read what you've said about doxycycline and it is different from what I have done and contrary to some of the advice that I have given out over the years.

 

Doxycycline is the one drug that I have always made sure that I have taken with a little food already in my stomach and then washed down with plenty of liquid (and pushed down with more food. I certainly know from painful experience that it can make your skin super Sun sensitive. I got burnt on hands and face on a mediocre English summer's day.

 

Two and a half years ago, I was taking rifampicin as well. Rifampicin was a bit of a pain from a couple of points of you but most notably that you couldn't take food an hour before and 2 hours after. As far as I was aware, rifampicin was the only drug that one has to particularly watch when you had your last meal and when you had your next.

 

I'll see what someone else has to say on this.

 

G.

“Don't believe everything you read on the internet.”

―    Abraham Lincoln

Glenn, you are correct about both abx:I am married to a person qualified to say so. If you ignore the advice about rifampicin, it just won't work very well, but if you don't eat at all with doxycycline, you will end up with a poorly oesophagus. 

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Do, Elizabeth. I was wondering about this myself. They will probably laugh: people have before, but you never know! Sarah

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

I must explain a bit more: I am always reluctant to be the first person to do it he talking, because I have been accused of trying to get more work for my husband: being his sidekick. So if f someone else like you starts, I can take over if needed.

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Hello,

Two weeks have passed since I started the protocol and I feel fine. That is, no ill effects at all. I'm looking forward to when I can start the Metronidazole so that I can finally kill the CPn off and start recovering properly. I will take advice from you experts and wait 3 months before I do that. 
I sent an email to the soldier with the infection via his solicitors. I've heard nothing back, but in fairness, I told them I wasn't expecting a reply. They no doubt get a lot of quackery.

Bye for now,

Elizabeth

 

Elizabeth Anne

Hello 

I'm an older member here since 2013 and read all comments .

I was reading your very first comment about your good neighbour ordering all 3 antibiotics from India .

I would be grateful if you can share the website link with me , thanks 

P.S. I can't type properly even this much has taken 4 hours !

guddi 

https://goldpharma.cn/

An actual doctor reviews and prescribes, an actual pharmacy then fills a legitimate prescription, and then the company does the shipping...

...one thing strikes me - we (uSofA) get pills in an ambigious pill container w/o seals, manufacturer's info, etc.- overseas, you get original manufacturer's packaging - typically secure blister-packs with manufacturer's paperwork, etc.

...I don't know about you, but I prefer THEIR system!!!!!

We find consultations, we learn tricks with which we deceive ourselves, but the essential thing - the way - we do not find. Listen to the river...

Guddi, look for a message from me!

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Hi there,

I haven't been able to post for a while but it looks like things are working again? Here goes anyway.

An update on me and my drugs!

Things are looking better and better. I'm taking Doxycycline and Azythromicin, and it's generally had an excellent effect on little things I didn't know were wrong, and on bigger and more wonderful things.

Firstly, my memory has improved a lot. Before I didn't recognise faces very well until after I had spent quite a bit of time with people. Now it's not quite back to normal, but getting there. 
I have a lot more energy and enthusiasm. I've got my mojo back, and I love it. So do my poor suffering friends and family.
My walking has improved though this is not consistent. It's strange -- but then it always was. Last Saturday I limped and stumbled along to a café for breakfast, then when I left 45 minutes later to go home, I was walking normally. 
After that we went for a 3-mile walk, and I went without using my Functional Electrical Stimulation device. (This is a walking aid that stimulates your weak muscles with an electric shock. They can help you get a lot further with foot drop than before, but they're not fun.) On Sunday it was a 4-mile walk. I do have to rest and perch against something, or sit down, but only for a few minutes.
Au contraire, this morning  as I walked along the road I needed to hold on to my husband for support. I can say that it is much, much less tiring than before, limp or no limp. 
I'm sleeping through the night, not needing to go to the toilet. 
I used to get little sores in my mouth the whole time, painful little nicks and scratches even from my very soft toothbrush -- no more. My knee's pain-free after three years of aching.
Oh, and my hair is growing less grey. Is that possible, or am I making that up? Anyway, I think it is!

I have been spreading the word!  A woman I work with used to be a chief exec at the NHS. She was really suspicious and sceptical, and kept telling me to 'Be Careful!" 
Now she's telling everybody about how wonderful (her words) I look. She used to nurse people with MS and she said yesterday that she could see my balance had improved and that my right side was matching my left. (I didn't use to think anyone could tell but me.)

I'm holding out for the Pulse. Taking Sarah's advice to leave it three months from the start. Half way there. 

Bye for now!
Best wishes,

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Anne

Hello Elizabeth, before I say anything else, I must ask what a mojo is, since to me it is a piquant sauce, or also something to do with Motown: Since from what you are saying, it is neither of those, I would like to know what it really is!

Next I would like to move straight on to the grey hair experience, because nobody has talked about it for ages.  I don't know how long you wear your hair, but my experience was that when David met me in my mid thirties, I had a small sprinkling of grey hair in my mid blonde hair.  Having now reached my sixties, most of these have disappeared and my hair is still natural mid blonde.

Your chief exec friend is right to tell you to be careful, since there are so many people touting miracle cures for MS.  However, the fact that she now sees something working in you. is very good news.  We need a few more chief execs with open eyes!

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Hi Sarah,

Piquant sauce -- love it! My mojo is my verve, oomph, energy, buzz... 
I think it originally was an African magic charm, hence Motown? 

Well. Wouldn't it be an added bonus if my hair stopped going grey. Neither of my brothers has grey hair which I've always thought unjust. 

I went for a long walk today without the FES - it was not as good as last weekend.  The overall picture is one of improvement.  Before, I used to be exhausted after a long hobble; now, I'm quite fine. That mojo again?

Bye!

Elizabeth

 

 

Elizabeth Anne