15 May 2018
Tommi C

Infusion Antibiotics - any experience?


Hi Everyone,

We have found a Naturopath (very very expensive - we don't know if his fees are out of line or not, but 500 an hour seems a lot!).

Rick has an appointment to see him in August after an initial interview a week or so back.  The Doctor is an infectious disease specialist, who knows of CPN, the other Doctor we were working with and perhaps Dr.'s Stratton and others.

During his conversation with Rick, he mentioned that IV antibiotics (infusion) - with a port installed, may be one way he will recommend going.


Tommi, my thoughts are that it is safer to build up taking things orally, but to avoid rifampicin and family until enough time has passed, which is what Stratton recommends with people treating themselves.

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Infusion into veins (putting a needle into your arm on each visit) is not so bad, but installing a port has serious risks, mainly involving infection and blood clots.  The only reason to put in a port, anyway, is if you're going to infuse something so caustic that it'd damage the vein in an arm.  They sometimes put in a port for chemotherapy for cancer, for instance.  I don't know which antibiotics are that caustic, but of course it's none of the ones we use here.  (And the ones we use here don't normally damage your stomach.)

I'm not sure this guy should really call himself a naturopath.

A port is always a risk for serious infections especially in severely ill patients. You have to weigh carefully benefits against risks. There are only a few antibiotics that must be given iv or work better if given iv. For the Wheldon Protocol (Minocycline, Azithromycin, Tinidazole) it makes no sense in my eyes, apart from some special cases (stomach upset if given orally, etc.).