Metro - dosage

Hi! :)

This is Gisel.la again. I started the protocol the 1st of June and it is still ongoing. 

After all these months though, I am having a naive doubt, I tried to look for it in the Protocol, but I am still not sure I am doing it correctly. 

I do have doubts about the correct amount of Metronidazol. For the moment I have been taking dosages of 250mg per day, 5 days at the beginning of each month alltogether with the Doxy and the Azitro. 

I was reading the Protocol again and, does it mention 400mg 3 times a day? I am afraid I have been short on dosages for it. 

Thanks a lot for your advise! :) 

Gisel.la

I think I got the answer in: "Flagyl (metronidazole) versus Tinidazole (Tinactin): differential responses?"

I guess I should higher the dose... I'll try today as I am in the pulse week. 

What would be the optimal dose, independently of how one feels? A pulse comprehends 5 or 7 days?

Once the Protocol finishes, is there any way or place to test if there is any rest of bacteria in the blood cells?

G. 

Gisel·la

(ONGOING PROTOCOL: 12 months Doxy+Azythro + 5 full Metro pulses)

MS Diagnosed: 21.IX.2016

 

Hi Barcelona!

Well, this is a spooky but fortunate coincidence. I have pulsed many times before ... but virtually always with tinidazole. This last pulse of mine was with metronidazole. I never really looked at the box until just now ... because I was going to answer your query. Now that I look at my package of Spanish metronidazole tablets, I realise that I just got it wrong! My metronidazole tablets are only 250mg each. This protocol requires that one takes either 400mg or 500mg of metronidazole (Flagyl) three times per day. That is 1,500mg a day. I have just done a pulse on half dose.

(British humour now):

I will have to change my name from supaguy to Arfa. Arfa Pulse

“Don't believe everything you read on the internet.”

―    Abraham Lincoln

Real problems here tonight. For the seventh time of trying - after finding that half of my aboba post is missing - I try to edit; delete and paste in the full / complete post ... and after I click save, it's back to exactly the same as it was.

One more try:  Hi Barcelona!

Well, this is a spooky but fortunate coincidence. I have pulsed many times before ... but virtually always with tinidazole. This last pulse of mine was with metronidazole. I never really looked at the box until just now ... because I was going to answer your query. Now that I look at my package of Spanish metronidazole tablets, I realise that I just got it wrong! My metronidazole tablets are only 250mg each. This protocol requires that one takes either 400mg or 500mg  of metronidazole (Flagyl) three times per day. That is 1,500mg a day. I have just done a pulse on half dose.

(British humour now):

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“Don't believe everything you read on the internet.”

―    Abraham Lincoln

Thanks a lot Supaguy-Arfa! ;p

(I have to tell I do not really know what Arfa means nor understood the joke... OMG!) :)

Yesterday I took 2 of 250mg. I am not sure if I am having any sort of flu or if it was the metro... but something was going on inside my joints, the back of my neck and my brain. 

I'll keep on highering (highering... can you use it as a verb?) the dose till 1.500mg a day. 

Once again, thanks a lot!!! :) I'll keep on updating... more doubts will come. :)

Gisel.la

Gisel·la

(ONGOING PROTOCOL: 12 months Doxy+Azythro + 5 full Metro pulses)

MS Diagnosed: 21.IX.2016

 

Gisel.la, I think I like the word 'highering' in place of 'raising!'  However, if you want to raise the dose to be as near as possible to the recommended dose, why not try to work up to two 250mg twice a day and then just one for the third dose?

As for the length of the pulse, after a while some people try to take it for much longer, but it made me so depressed that I have never taken it for more than five days, often four and two third days!...............................Sarah
Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Sarah! :D

Well, I have no clue how could it happen, but I just have been taking 250mg a day during 5 days in the last pulses... bad...

Yesterday I already started with 1.200mg. It is funny how my joints and skull react to it, and even funnier to see Mike standing my crying sessions...

Noone said it would be easy, but this too will pass. :)

I am afraid though, I'll become the eternal pulser to compensate the lack of mg in the last ones. O.o

I keep on going! :)

Gisel.la

Gisel·la

(ONGOING PROTOCOL: 12 months Doxy+Azythro + 5 full Metro pulses)

MS Diagnosed: 21.IX.2016

 

The Gremlins have been at work on this site. Here is the other half of my my message that just would not save:

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Anyway, all the dosages are written here on the Getting Started page.


http://cpnhelp.org/treatment_protocols


I need to get myself some more metronidazole ... as do you. We both need to be taking 3 x 500mg a day for five days.

The bacteria that we are trying to kill when we take metronidazole or tinidazole are not "in the blood". Metronidazole (or tinidazole) are taken in order to kill chlamydia pneumoniae that are hibernating away within some of your living cells.

I hope that this has been of help my friend.

“Don't believe everything you read on the internet.”

―    Abraham Lincoln

XDDDD

Thanks Supaguy! It feels good to laugh a bit. :) 

Wet Gremlins took your PC... ;)

I like to think about the Metro as the one which goes to the nests of the bacteria... though, my dosages were wrong, and not just by the half. I have no clue how such a mistake could just happened. I feel a bit dumb. (Or a lot).

Anyway, this week has been full on. So I consider it my fist (delayed) pulse. 1.200mg a day during 7 days. 

Once again, thanks a lot lot lot. :D

Gisel.la

Gisel·la

(ONGOING PROTOCOL: 12 months Doxy+Azythro + 5 full Metro pulses)

MS Diagnosed: 21.IX.2016

 

No Gisel.la,

you are not dumb! Your condition is! And it’s dying, little by little!

the main thing is that you’re taking the CAP, although the correct doses are better!

Jane

MS symptoms from 2001, DX RRMS in 2008, following, a change of hospital who sent me for an MRI, precipitated by some sight loss. Took Interferons, on and off. Prescribed  chemo infusions to slow pro

No Gisel.la,

you are not dumb! Your condition is! And it’s dying, little by little!

the main thing is that you’re taking the CAP, although the correct doses are better!

Jane

MS symptoms from 2001, DX RRMS in 2008, following, a change of hospital who sent me for an MRI, precipitated by some sight loss. Took Interferons, on and off. Prescribed  chemo infusions to slow pro

But as for the doses, it takes many people absolutely ages to get up to the correct dose: some people unfortunately never do.  You should find it easier because you didn't rush into it: you allowed the bacteristatics to do a little killing themselves before the heavies came in.......................Sarah

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Ow guys...

Feeling emotional here. :')

I will never ever be able to pay you back, not in a million lives. <3

Gisel·la

(ONGOING PROTOCOL: 12 months Doxy+Azythro + 5 full Metro pulses)

MS Diagnosed: 21.IX.2016

 

Fast Update:

- Starting 3rd full Metro pulse (400mg x 3 times x 7 days) and 10th month of Doxy and Azithro -

As Sarah informed, metro is a punching antibiotic. The first pulse was pretty depressing and I could feel a big irratibility. Definitely, I became not the best person to have around. I do not work at the moment and I must say the knowledge was really useful to prevent my close ones.

I use to start the pulse after my period, which is at the beginnings of the month. I come from a long dinasty of agricultures, and so I believe the moon cicles affect the bacterial life cicle as it affects on the plant growing process, besides, I need Ibuprofenos to stand the pain, so it seemed logical not to mix more to the cocktail into the pulsing week. 

The depression and irratibility seems to get better after the 3rd week of the month, and so, when I start feeling better, the next pulse starts and darkness appears again.

It seems the second pulse was a bit better than the first, and so I hope the third one will be even better. I suspect my bacterial load is not too high.

I got an MRI programmed next week (finaly), and the results at the end of the month.

I'll keep on posting. :) 

Gisel·la

(ONGOING PROTOCOL: 12 months Doxy+Azythro + 5 full Metro pulses)

MS Diagnosed: 21.IX.2016

 

Gisel.la, everyone is going to be different here, but my metro cycle, my first pulse was easy, so much so that I wondered what all the fuss was about, except that I became very tearful within half an hour of taking the first tablet.  The second pulse affected me more, and the third pulse was by far the worse: I ended up with what is now called complex regional pain syndrome' in my right arm and hand, which took to moving around anywhere from my finger tips to my spinal column, seeming to die away then coming back in full force.  I have never known pain like it, but luckily it did seem to leave off from about midnight until seven in the morning, allowing me to sleep.  It lasted longer than the five days of the pulse, but didn't run into the next pulse.  After that, I seemed to have vey little reaction, so I presume most of the germs were gone.


It will be interesting to see what your next mri shows: I feared the worse after the pain and was totally surprised to see that there were no new lesions and a fading away of some of the others........................Sarah

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Hi all,

i just started the first pulse. My doctor was also questioning the metro dose  because the Tablets come as 500 mg  so we called Dr. Stratton who said two 500 mg one in the morning one in the evening would suffice. They have me doing it for seven days. Sarah what are your thoughts on this?   Perhaps I should be taking and cutting one of the pills in half  so I can get as close to 1200 mg three times a day?  Honestly the fatigue is kicking my butt!

Thank you,

Trish

2003 Asthma diagnosis - 2004 took doxycycline per Dr. David Hahn work - asthma free. 2014 developed upper body myalgia/arthritis and asthma returned. Dec 2015 c pneumonia bloodwork IGG titer 1:512. Took 6 months of doxy for asthma flare up - again asthma gone but myalgia stayed. Dec 2017, extreme fatigue started. Emailed Dr. Wheldon. Research on cpnhelp.org - Jan 2, 2018 started Wheldon protocol.

We can only get 400mg tablets,  hence David said 1200 mg, but  if your tablets are 500 mg, he agrees with Stratton..............Sarah 

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

We can only get 400mg tablets,  hence David said 1200 mg, but  if your tablets are 500 mg, he agrees with Stratton..............Sarah 

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Thank you both

2003 Asthma diagnosis - 2004 took doxycycline per Dr. David Hahn work - asthma free. 2014 developed upper body myalgia/arthritis and asthma returned. Dec 2015 c pneumonia bloodwork IGG titer 1:512. Took 6 months of doxy for asthma flare up - again asthma gone but myalgia stayed. Dec 2017, extreme fatigue started. Emailed Dr. Wheldon. Research on cpnhelp.org - Jan 2, 2018 started Wheldon protocol.

Hi!

Smile

Here in the UK, it is possible to get both 400mg and 500mg tablets. Here in the UK, 400mg Metronidazole tablets are normal and 500mg tablets are more special and are hugely more expensive. I just buy the 400mg tablets. I suggest that you find out whatever is the cheapest way to do it and go that route.

Good luck my friend.

Cool

G.

“Don't believe everything you read on the internet.”

―    Abraham Lincoln

Hi G! I will ask the pharmacist if they carry 400 mg and the price differences if it’s available in the US.

Thank you!

Trish

2003 Asthma diagnosis - 2004 took doxycycline per Dr. David Hahn work - asthma free. 2014 developed upper body myalgia/arthritis and asthma returned. Dec 2015 c pneumonia bloodwork IGG titer 1:512. Took 6 months of doxy for asthma flare up - again asthma gone but myalgia stayed. Dec 2017, extreme fatigue started. Emailed Dr. Wheldon. Research on cpnhelp.org - Jan 2, 2018 started Wheldon protocol.

Thanks a lot Sarah, :)

I get on being surprised by the coincidences besides the differences on people. 

Tears run a lot in the first and second pulse too.

It seems this one is a bit better. At the 3rd day and no tears rolling down my cheecks for the moment. I felt a strange sensation (sort of a light pain) on my right wrist which went a bit away the next day but came back the evening after. Today it seems I do not feel it anymore. 

Tonight, at 1:45 am, I'll be inside the space machine, finaly! I am more than ready to go into the piiiiiips and the toc toc toc... and more piiiiiips... I cannot wait to know the results, which will be delivered on the 26th of April! :D

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Pjdelambo lots of luck into your pulses! To me it was fundamental the information and answers from Sarah to tear fear away. This is the best advise I can give you at the moment. :)

Gisel·la

(ONGOING PROTOCOL: 12 months Doxy+Azythro + 5 full Metro pulses)

MS Diagnosed: 21.IX.2016

 

Gisel.la, did you really have your latest mri at nearly two hours after midnight?  That must be overtime plus four for the radiology staff!.....................Sarah

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Hi Gisel.la!

Thank you! I have already figured out I need to eat just before I take the metro. The fatigue has subsided. The pain was decreasing on the first two abx and now I noticed yesterday my elbow pain is gone. That’s a first in 4 years! Next week I will reduce my prednisone to 2 mg. I am hoping to get off the pred soon. 

I agree, all the support from Sarah, David, and everyone on this website is a true help in combatting the fear of our battles with uncertainty. All the feedback is greatly appreciated.

2003 Asthma diagnosis - 2004 took doxycycline per Dr. David Hahn work - asthma free. 2014 developed upper body myalgia/arthritis and asthma returned. Dec 2015 c pneumonia bloodwork IGG titer 1:512. Took 6 months of doxy for asthma flare up - again asthma gone but myalgia stayed. Dec 2017, extreme fatigue started. Emailed Dr. Wheldon. Research on cpnhelp.org - Jan 2, 2018 started Wheldon protocol.

Yes Sarah... O.o

It seems the MRI machines work 24hours. Having a public health care is amazingly beneficial for a society, but it has a few downs, as the colapse of the system, stressed doctors and angry patients. If I am not wrong, they have around 8 minutes per visit... 

Anyhow, I agree with Pjdelambo, finding you, David, the team behind this website, the other ones in the same situation... has trully been a relieve. I should write the story and make it a Netflix serie... it would be worth watching. :)

Sending you lots of undescribable love. 

Gisel.la

Gisel·la

(ONGOING PROTOCOL: 12 months Doxy+Azythro + 5 full Metro pulses)

MS Diagnosed: 21.IX.2016