Hypertension

High blood pressure

High Blood Pressure

Can starting on the protocol make one's blood pressure rise?  My bp is normally about 120/80.

When I went to the doctor yesterday for my annual pap test, my bp was 185/110.  The nurse was wanting to make an appointment with my internist for me to get it checked out.  I did not make an appointment yet.

Today I checked my bp before taking my 100 mg of doxycycline and it was 159/105.  About 30 minutes after taking the doxy on an empty stomach, I thought that I was going to vomit.  That did not happen, but I did check my blood pressure again and it was 167/121.  Twenty minutes later it is now 167/109.

BBP or BP/GD

As Joyce has said "What a bizarre group we are". The title of this blog stands for: Blog By Proxy - Blood Pressure/Gum Disease. For years Dr R (Richard) has fought bad breath and gum disease with meticulous attention to an heroic dental routine and visited the dentist alternating with the periodontist for a total of 6 times a year. His gums have inexorably receded and bled. Several months ago in a matter of a few days, his bad breath disappeared, becoming almost overnight as sweet as a baby's.

Help I am so confused

I am still trying to get a grasp on Chlamydia Pneumoniae, I just found out on 4-11-07.  But I have been sick for awhile  Cry.  I am just starting Antibioticsi again......eeeeek Foot in mouth.  My symptoms have been sinus infectionsi and uppper respitory infections , Phlaringitis, Broncotitis, Asthmai.  In and out of the Dr. office the month of April, and my throat swelled shut I could go on and on.  I ended up at an Infetious disease Dr.

Fighting to get out!

So now I have a dozen self inflicted flagyllations under my belt and the Cpni is fighting to get out!   How do I know this?  Because my arms, back and thighs are errupting.   Yes, those parts of my body look like a string of volcanoes that have suddently surfaced from the ocean.   They are of different sizes and are at different stages of evolution and when they stop errupting they leave a lovely pattern of red flesh with a pale crusty crater and a tiny red spot in the middle.   This has been going on for a couple of months now, started off with a rash of little widespead spots, some of them grew and some of them stayed small.   All very itchy, but I think that things are quietening down now.   No new ones since I started the last pulse (#12)

Findlay Family fights on

Yes, that's us, Ella, Hamish and I, fighters, scrapper, survivors; however heavy our concrete boots, so far we have always made it back to the surface.

Stricktly speaking of course Hamish should not feature in this blog as he is not likely to ever follow a CAPi for his treatment, but I thought you would like to know that he is slowly making progress after his stem cell transplant.   Someone suggested that Cpni might be implicated in CLL (chronic lymphocistic leukemia), but my husband is much too conservative to try anything as controversial as the CAP, instead he has received a treatment which cost the NHS (National Health Service) $235,000.   At present he is still in hospital, in isolation and getting very impatient to get out.   He is likely to be there for at least another fortnight (two weeks).

Heparin - has anyone tried it?

Heparine, has anyone tried it for additional treatment?

I know that fibrine is one of my major factors. I cough it every 4-6 days and it is .. well.. it is directly related to how good I feel and to my blood pressure. For those who don't have it: It is very strong filament.. very very strong. Not comparable to mucus. It is hard and makes strange "feeling" when bitting on it. *Pft*.. my grammar must be horrible. Anyway. Has someone tried heparine as therapy? Additionally to abxi? How was it? Did it help or worsen symptoms?

gitta 

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gitta's blood pressure story

I am female, 42 yeas old, 172 cm with 62 kg weight. Never had trouble with blood pressure - at least not before I catched my lung infection.

My serum lipids have been / are always normal, sometimes even to low.

Risk factor is my smoking (yes - I know I have to stop - I have stopped before I went ill. But I started again and in the current situation I really do not know how to manage it..). I smoke about 15 cigarettes per day. I eat healthy food and have normal body activity because I have no car and do everything by walking or go by bike. Besides I live in the 3rd floor without elevator und do all the shopping for two persons alone.

High blood pressure was diagnosed at first in September 2005 when I went to hospital. It was >200 / 140 or anything. They did not further investigate for reasons, but wrote a letter to my doc, that investigation and BP medicine have to follow.

Dr R and the Ghost Blog

If I were the real thing I would not be a ghost writer but this story must be told and will be as accurately as possible.  

Dr R has now been off of 1 of his 3 bp meds for a week and today his bp was 112/59 - pulse 59.   Even in his deepest sleep and 3 meds I bet it was never close to the highest of the past month or more.    The usual was at about 149/89 - last January, before beginning abxi.  Now it has ranged from 144/84 to 136/75 to 116/69 to 107/65 with the lower range being much more usual.  Today both of us are less tired than in the past week.  I asked him if he knew what that meant, and of couse he said no.  I said "You are following the pattern of the rest of us - this is the third week of the cycle and you are sick, too".  Then I stopped him and looking him straight in the eye, said "Even the most skeptical of you guys will have to think something is happening"    So, we leave in 1 week for the Nationals and I think will "do" tinidazole  instead of flagyli.  This will be #3 pulse for Dr R. Doing flagyl at the Nationals  might be kind of like the astronauts going outside the ship without a tether.

The Remarkable Effects of a CAP for Chlamydia Pneumoniae on High Blood Pressure

One of the remarkable things we have been finding from users of a Combined Antibiotic Protocol is a distinct lowering of blood pressure, even normalizing serious hypertension without other blood pressure medications. This was first noted and observed by David Wheldoni in reporting his own treatment of Cpni for cardiovascular issues. As blood pressure readings are easy to gather as hard data, and pre-CAPi pressures can be collected from one's own doctor's records, one of our members has been gathering this data into an ongoing survey.

See for yourself at the link below. The charts are quite something to see, especially as high blood pressurei is often very difficult to treat and stabilize.

Ron's Blood Pressure Survey Link 

Blood Pressure Survey

Hello, all -- I've put a survey together to track the bp responses we've seen.

Each time you take the survey, you can enter one blood pressure reading. You can make as many responses as you wish. It would be great if everyone could at least enter three representative bp's from sometime before they did their first pulse of bactericide, and three from sometime after their first pulse.

The survey just asks for your cpnhelp username (or an 'alias', if you insist) and the blood pressure reading, and how many months before/after your first pulse it was taken.

Here's the survey itself (opens in a new window). If you have any questions, you can post them here or write me a PM.

Thanks for the help.

Ron 

BP results for paron

This is in response to David Wheldoni's post http://www.cpnhelp.org/?q=blood_pressure_experience. If you want to download the BP.xls, you can use it to chart your BP changes. It's not ready for prime time, but it does work if you are familiar with MSi Excel.

I'll keep looking for a BP chart maker online -- if I find it, I'll let you know. This is very much an experiment with Drupal -- if it tanks, I'll take it down.

Worked just fine, so I'll leave this post alone.

Ron 

Blood Pressure Experiences

Blood Pressure Experiences

One of the most remarkable (and objectively measurable) effects of CAPi seems to be the normalizing of blood-pressure. I thought it might be worth while having a forum on this subject, so that people can voice their findings.

My own experience is that of a rapid reversal of what had been worsening for 25 years. My blood pressure before starting treatment was typically 155 / 95 and rising. That's a pulse pressure of 60, which is wide for someone in their late fifties. The usual thoughts cross the mind: 'I'm healthy, I have a reasonable diet, I go cycling to work every day, I enjoy what I do.' And then you look towards the future. And then you think of colleagues who have had coronary problems, some much younger than you. For you the future course of events is that the systolic blood pressure will continue to rise, and the diastolic pressure will plateau and then slowly fall. This results in an ever-widening pulse-pressure which is known to precede strokes and coronary artery disease. Well, in my case, when I began taking antibioticsi, I noticed a regular fall in both systolic and diastolic blood pressure over the weeks (I had bought a little Seinex sphygmomanometer a year or two ago.) I measured my BP every other morning or so. I'm now on intermittent antibiotics and my BP runs along at a typical 115 / 75. It's also far more responsive to exercise and even emotions. If I'm really calm and the sunlight is streaming through the window, then it can go down to 95 / 65. It rises during exercise and then quickly falls. The pulse-rate echoes this. Before treatment it was typically 85; now it is typically 60 - 65. It recovers very quickly after exercise. All this strikes me as amazing, and, scattered through various threads, it seems that several others have had similar experiences. I recall Ron saying:

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