Just this morning there was an article in the LA TImes about how researchers now think that bacteria played a role in deaths from the 1918 flu pandemic. With what we know about Cpni infecting so many young adults, it seems obvious to me that there is a connection. Also, in that era people wore lots of clothing and did not go out to get sun exposure (unless you were a farmer). Tanning as a fashion appeared in the 1930's and 40's. I could not help but recall Dr. Cannel's report of treating his patients at Atascadero State Hospital with D and having his entire wing of patients escape a flu that swept through the other areas of the hospital !!!
You can read the article online here:
Raven
CAP since 8-05 for Cpn and Mycoplasma P. for MS and/or CFSi
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Feeling 98% well and going for 100! Still testing + for Cpni since June '08.CAPi since 8-05 for Cpn and Mycoplasma P. for MSi and/or CFSi. Also EBVii and HHV6
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I had to look up Dr.
I had to look up Dr. Cannell since you mentioned that and found this:
http://www.whale.to/a/cannell.html
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Hmmm, polymicrobial
Hmmm, polymicrobial infectionsi?
Thanks, Raven...
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Thanks Raven and Sunnivara,
Thanks Raven and Sunnivara, Interesting reading.
Louise
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Vitamin Di and the MPi -
Vitamin Di and the MPi - Dr. Cannell specifically addresses the Marshall Protocol regarding vitamin D in this interesting article:
http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/marshall-protocol-and-other-fa...
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GFAi - asthmai, sinusitis/rhinitis, tendonitis, low back pain, hypothyroid. Started azi 1000mg/week Jan 9, '08. Increased azi to 250mg/day, added 20mg Benicar daily Mar 13, '08. First Flagyli pulse started June 30, '08. Added Doxyi 200mg/day Aug 16.
Thanks for the great
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Sunnivara, Thanks for the
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Ditto here. Excellent
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For the ones that cannot
For the ones that cannot follow links I present here some interesting apparts of these readings:
Bacteria Fingered As Killer In 1918 Flu Pandemic
by Joanne Silberner:
Morning Edition, August 20, 2008 · What killed tens of millions of people around the world in the 1918 flu pandemic actually might not have been a flu virus. A new study in the Journal of Infectious Diseasesi blames different agents: bacteria.
The flu virus weakened lungs, opening the door to fatal bacterial pneumonia in most of the pandemic's 50 million victims, according to researchers at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
Bacteria played a role in 1918 pandemic flu deaths, scientists say
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-sci-flu18-2008aug18,0,1526990.story
By Mary Engel,Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
August 18, 2008
Most deaths in the 1918 influenza pandemic were due not to the virus alone but to common bacterial infectionsi that took advantage of victims' weakened immunei systems, according to two new studies that could change the nation's strategy against the next pandemic.
Writing about the 1918 influenza outbreak in the August issue of the journal Emerging Infectious Diseases, researchers reported that few deaths were swift, which is what scientists believed characterized a viral pandemic. Instead, they found most deaths occurred a week to two weeks later -- indicating the deaths were the result of opportunistic bacterial infections.
Silver Spring , Md. , and Dr. G. Dennis Shanks, director of the Australian Army Malaria Institute in Queensland .
Most of the bacteria recovered from patients, dead or alive, are common colonizers of the noses and throats of healthy people, according to coauthors Dr. John F. Brundage, a medical epidemiologist at the Armed Forces Health Surveillance Center in
It has long been recognized that most flu deaths are due to pneumonia caused by secondary bacterial infections.
But to explain the 1918 pandemic's unusual virulence, many scientists had come to believe the virus killed by provoking an overzealous, destroy-the-village-to-save-it immune response, especially in young adults with robust immune systems.
But he acknowledged the flu pandemic deaths could have been the result of a polymicrobial infection -- a co-infection by multiple microbes.
"Certainly the idea that resident bacteria flora already present could play a role in developing pneumonia is relatively reasonable," he said. "If the 1918 flu had any impact that compromised [immune] function, it could render a normal resident bacteria pathological."
Epidemic Influenza And Vitamin Di By J. J. Cannell
Main Category: Flu / SARS News
Article Date: 15 Sep 2006 - 0:00 PST
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=51913
Epidemic influenza kills a million people in the world every year by causing pneumonia, "the captain of the men of death."
I guess our hospital was under luckier stars as only about 12% of our patients were infected and no one died. However, as the epidemic progressed, I noticed something unusual. First, the ward below mine was infected, and then the ward on my right, left, and across the hall - but no patients on my ward became ill. My patients had intermingled with patients from infected wards before the quarantines. The nurses on my unit cross-covered on infected wards. Surely, my patients were exposed to the influenza A virus. How did my patients escape infection from what some think is the most infectious of all the respiratory viruses?
All of the patients on my ward had been taking 2,000 units of vitamin D every day for several months or longer. Could that be the reason none of my patients caught the flu?A short while later, a group of scientists from UCLA published a remarkable paper in the prestigious journal, Nature. The UCLA group confirmed two other recent studies, showing that a naturally occurring steroid hormone - a hormone most of us take for granted - was, in effect, a potent antibiotic. Instead of directly killing bacteria and viruses, the steroid hormone under question increases the body's production of a remarkable class of proteins, called antimicrobial peptides. The 200 known antimicrobial peptides directly and rapidly destroy the cell walls of bacteria, fungi, and viruses, including the influenza virus, and play a key role in keeping the lungs free of infection. The steroid hormone that showed these remarkable antibiotic properties was plain old vitamin D.
In the paper, we propose that vitamin D explains the following 14 observations:
Norway , are less likely to die in the winter,
1. Why the flu predictably occurs in the months following the winter solstice, when vitamin D levels are at their lowest,
2. Why it disappears in the months following the summer solstice,
3. Why influenza is more common in the tropics during the rainy season,
4. Why the cold and rainy weather associated with El Nino Southern Oscillation (ENSO), which drives people indoors and lowers vitamin D blood levels, is associated with influenza,
5. Why the incidence of influenza is inversely correlated with outdoor temperatures,
6. Why children exposed to sunlight are less likely to get colds,
7. Why cod liver oil (which contains vitamin D) reduces the incidence of viral respiratory infections,
8. Why Russian scientists found that vitamin D-producing UVB lamps reduced colds and flu in schoolchildren and factory workers,
9. Why Russian scientists found that volunteers, deliberately infected with a weakened flu virus - first in the summer and then again in the winter - show significantly different clinical courses in the different seasons,
10. Why the elderly who live in countries with high vitamin D consumption, like
11. Why children with vitamin D deficiency and rickets suffer from frequent respiratory infections,
12. Why an observant physician (Rehman), who gave high doses of vitamin D to children who were constantly sick from colds and the flu, found the treated children were suddenly free from infection,
13. Why the elderly are so much more likely to die from heart attacks in the winter rather than in the summer,
14. Why African Americans, with their low vitamin D blood levels, are more likely to die from influenza and pneumonia than Whites are.
Although our paper discusses the possibility that physiological doses of vitamin D (5,000 units a day) may prevent colds and the flu, and that physicians might find pharmacological doses of vitamin D (2,000 units per kilogram of body weight per day for three days) useful in treating some of the one million people who die in the world every year from influenza, we remind readers that it is only a theory. Like all theories, our theory must withstand attempts to be disproved with dispassionately conducted and well-controlled scientific experiments.
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MariaPatri - living in a rollercoaster! (In Orlando, Fl).
Thyroiditis, sinus infection, heart, muscles and joints.
I guess blood test doesn't
I guess blood test doesn't show bacteria and that's why so many people died? Hello? I don't want to think it was a huge collective negligence of examining through out the sick ones?
It calls my attention that one of the readings say that the sick ones showed the same bacteria in their nose and throats as the non sick people has? so, is it just a problem of how the body is dealing with his "regular" issues"??
Being weaker makes us sicker? a sentence to play in commercials ah? if the inmuno system is weak any illness might become deadly...
I see that in this country - USA- every house, building, office, shop, hospital, everywhere, doors and windows are closed every day, and year by year, "preserving" viruses and bacterias. I don't think those air purifyiers are enough and better than opening the doors and changing the air from time to time!!! Please, open the window pa que entre el viento - a sentence Colombian say joking when learning English - open the window for the wind to come inside; I think might be part of the solution to avoid another pandemia! Amen.
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MariaPatri - living in a rollercoaster! (In Orlando, Fl).
Thyroiditis, sinus infection, heart, muscles and joints.
I thought THIS guys
I thought THIS guys explanation was pretty good:
"As we go through life we pick up micro-organisms. An untold volume of viruses and bacteria are added to our bodies like barnacles accumulating on the hull of an aging ship.
Hopefully the ship will stay afloat.
This is the natural order. We evolved to survive in a soup of microbes. Only a few make us sick. Of course that varies.
Opportunistic infectionsi. It has a nice ring. These are dormant germs, biding their time, waiting for the right moment or "opportunity"to strike and make their mark. They can only make a move when the ever vigilant immunei system has taken some hard hits and dozed off while on guard duty."
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