MediTest
27 Apr 2018
Author
Mark Hall
Title

Activated Charcoal - Before Abx???

Body

Hi,It's a bl**dy nightmare trying to fit all the supplements to take into a schedule.  I think I have things correct now.  Paula has just started today taking NAC as well, but the question I need to ask is:-When do you start taking Activated Charcoal? Is it before you start on the abx.

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UK Carer. Bedridden Severe ME/CFS Feb06. CPN dx. Apr07. Samento 15xper day.  300mg NAC 1xper day. Building up on Supp. before CAP.

UK Carer of bedridden Severe CFS Feb06. Tick bites Summer04.  CPN dx.Apr07. Borrelia dx Sept08. Samento 15 drps daily July07.  200mg Doxy Jan08.  300mg Roxy Apr08 Stopped abx Nov/Dec08. Building up on Supps again.

Hi Mark & Paula,

my understanding is that you take it as needed when you have reactions.  I am not sure that there is a way to build up so to speak.  I have a similar problem with sleeping lots & getting all the supplements in.  What it has come down to is, I take glucose mostly.  Sometimes I will skip a snack & do a Vit C flush or pop a bunch of charcoal.  When I have realy bad gas is when I know I need to to something quick, lol  Sometimes my body craves the carbs which is a way to sop up the toxins too!

Best wishes with the balancing act!

Did anyone say this is easy, lol

CFIDS/ME 25yrs, FMS, IBS, EBV, Cpn, (insomnia - melatonin, GABA, tarazadone, temazepam, novocyclopine, allergy formula, 2 gm tryptophan), Natural HRT peri-M, NAC 2.5 gm, 6-07 Doxy 200 mg day pm, Azith 375 mg M/W/Fday, 10-30-07 3rd pulse 2 X 250 mg 2day

CFIDS/ME, FMS, MCS, IBS, EBV, CMV, Cpn, H1, chronic insomnia, Chronic Lyme, HME, Babesia, Natural HRT-menopause, NAC 2.4 gm,Full CAP 6-2-07, all supplements+Iodorol, Inositol-depression, ultra Chitosan, L lysine Pulse#27 04-19-10 1gm Flagyl/day-5 days<

Hi ruthless1,

Paula has had bad gas for quite a while (she won't like me saying this :-)  and I just thought it was because she was in bed for 99% of the time.  Are you saying there is another reason?

Cheers,

Mark

UK Carer of bedridden Severe ME/CFS Feb06. CPN dx. Apr07. Samento 15 drops per day July07.  300mg NAC 1xper day Nov07. Building up on supp. before CAP.

UK Carer of bedridden Severe CFS Feb06. Tick bites Summer04.  CPN dx.Apr07. Borrelia dx Sept08. Samento 15 drps daily July07.  200mg Doxy Jan08.  300mg Roxy Apr08 Stopped abx Nov/Dec08. Building up on Supps again.

Hey Mark,

when my health was rapidly deteriorating in the fall of 2005, I had diahhrea for 4 straight months.  PHewww.  I had a doctor tell me back in 1976 that I had IBS.  I am quite certain, especially when I add the horrific intestinal pain from March, pre CAP discovery; I have the critters in my GI track.

So ya, I think, when I get really fowl gassy, I mean, peeling the paint off the walls gassy, it is die off related.  More proof is it subsides when I eat carbs, glucose...

CFIDS/ME 25yrs, FMS, IBS, EBV, Cpn, (insomnia - melatonin, GABA, tarazadone, temazepam, novocyclopine, allergy formula, 2 gm tryptophan), Natural HRT peri-M, NAC 2.5 gm, 6-07 Doxy 200 mg day pm, Azith 375 mg M/W/Fday, 10-30-07 3rd pulse 2 X 250 mg 2day

CFIDS/ME, FMS, MCS, IBS, EBV, CMV, Cpn, H1, chronic insomnia, Chronic Lyme, HME, Babesia, Natural HRT-menopause, NAC 2.4 gm,Full CAP 6-2-07, all supplements+Iodorol, Inositol-depression, ultra Chitosan, L lysine Pulse#27 04-19-10 1gm Flagyl/day-5 days<

Mark, cpn can invade the cells of GI tract.  This could explain her gas.  I believe cpn had invaded by gi tract. I was having 3 bowel movements a day for past 3 years.  In my younger days, I would have 4-5 a week. Since starting the protocol, I'm having one bowel movement a day.  We all have different manifestations from CPN. Paula's gas could be a manifestation of CPN.  

Mphs, TN. CFS, hypoT, weak adrenals, 37 w/hormones of 80 yo. right arm neuropathy. 6/26/07- CPN Titer 1:256 (normal 1:16); 6/27/07- NAC; 7/2/07- doxy 100, 2xday; 7/19/07-9/7/07- Biaxin. 9/8/07-azith 250 mg m/w/f. 10/18/07-1st flagyl pulse

Mphs, TN. CFS, hypoT (Hashi), adrenal fatigue, hormonal inbalance. right arm neuropathy-getting better. cpn, myco, EBV, CMV, HHV-6. Cap began in 6/07. NAC 2400mg, mino 100mg bid, biaxin 500mg bid. cytomel, flagyl bid continuously.

 Well, they use charcoal to treat bad gas too! So one way or the other it will be useful. You don't have to build up with charcoal. You can wait until she is starting abx as these are the most likely to cause a porphyrin dump, but if you can add a dose a day, try 6-8 caps rather than the full 12 caps, it may bring down the overall porphyrin levels and improve her energy, and her gas!

CAP for Chlamydia pneumonia since 11/04. 25yrs CFS & FMS- Currently: 200 Doxycycline, 500mg MWF Azithromycin, Tini pulses.

A motto, not an aspiration: "Anything worth doing is worth overdoing."

I seem to only get the gas (the kind ruthless described) when I do flagy pulses. I guess I will be buying some charcoal.. 

Mphs, TN. CFS, hypoT, weak adrenals, 37 w/hormones of 80 yo. right arm neuropathy. 6/26/07- CPN Titer 1:256 (normal 1:16); 6/27/07- NAC; 7/2/07- doxy 100, 2xday; 7/19/07-9/7/07- Biaxin. 9/8/07-azith 250 mg m/w/f. 10/18/07-1st flagyl pulse

Mphs, TN. CFS, hypoT (Hashi), adrenal fatigue, hormonal inbalance. right arm neuropathy-getting better. cpn, myco, EBV, CMV, HHV-6. Cap began in 6/07. NAC 2400mg, mino 100mg bid, biaxin 500mg bid. cytomel, flagyl bid continuously.